[Question #10017] fingerstick testing
26 months ago
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hey doctors:
in quesiton 9954, doctor hook explained that 'the squeezing, etc, can impact the results of tests counting the cells in a specimen but for measurement of HIV antibodies (or antigen) the test is not vulnerable to these problems.'
in question 8733, doctor hook said 'that your original positive treponema test was from a finger-stick process in which you needed to squeeze your finger to obtain sufficient specimen for testing.. this not only explains the hemolysis which was noted but may also explain the test result -- squeezing to obtain the specimen may have release "tissue juices" which increase the risk of falsely positive test results"
my question is that since both tests measure antibodies why does one test suffer from possible inaccuracy from squeezing the blood out and one does not? does this only affect false positives? my 4th gen alere combo fingerstick tests were negative. now i’m concerned if the person squeezed the blood out too hard the results may not be accurate?
thank you
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
26 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question -- and for reviewing other discussions related to your own concerns.
There is little if any science on these topics. I suspect Dr. Hook was giving common sense explanations for why fingerstick testing might, in theory, have less reliable results than testing blood drawn from a vein. But I am unaware of any actual research on these topics. From your description, the first instance (9954) seems to refer to blood counts ("counting cells"), but not antibody tests (e.g. syphilis or HIV). In the second, I imagine it was speculation to explain an apparent false positive syphilis result. Indeed, it seems that instance was referring to false positive results, and it was for syphilis, not HIV. I see no reason to expect a false negative result on an HIV test done by fingerstick.
All things considered, I think the chance of false results on account of these issues is exceedingly low, probably nearly zero. I really wouldn't worry about it, either for HIV or syphilis testing.
If you remain concerned, if fingerstick testing is done in the future, I suggest you assure enough blood flow that vigorous squeezing isn't necessary. If you remain concerned about a negative HIV test already done, feel free to repeat it; or have a lab-based test on venous blood.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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26 months ago
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thank you for the reply.
again on question 9954 dr hook assured that these hiv tests are forgiving and don’t suffer from inaccuracy from squeezing blood out.
i have also read here on the forum that alere combo 4th generation hiv rapid tests are as accurate as lab based tests when done 6+ weeks past exposure.
does this remain true?
i had three of three of these tests done a few years back all 6+ weeks past encounter.
so there is no medial reason to retest and also no medical reason to suspect the negatives (3) were possible false negatives on these tests even if there was vigorous squeezing (which i don’t recall but who knows right?)?
thank you
26 months ago
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i know these questions are repetitive. i mean, given all of the tests that have occurred and the testing of these tests it’s hard to believe they could be wrong due to the issues of the blood collection, right?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
26 months ago
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I agree there is no realistic chance that three separately done tests all would be falsely positive. The main problem with all rapid tests, including Alere Determine, is false positive results. Even these are very rare, and negative results are always considered conclusive when done more than 6 weeks after the last possible exposure -- i.e. just as reliable as a lab based AgAb test. (If you'd like to say more about the exposure you are concerned about, perhaps I would have additional reassuring advice.)---
26 months ago
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you said :
agree there is no realistic chance that three separately done tests all would be falsely positive
did you mean
agree there is no realistic chance that three separately done tests all would be falsely negative?
and to be hyper clear:
so there is no medial reason to retest and also no medical reason to suspect the negatives (3) were possible false negatives on these tests even if there was vigorous squeezing (which i don’t recall but who knows right?)?
thanks again!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
26 months ago
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Yes, falsely negative. Sorry for the typo!
I see no reason for retesting yet again, regardless of "vigorous squeezing" (if it happened).
That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question and so ends this thread. Thanks again for your confidence in our services. Best wishes and stay safe!
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