[Question #10126] MSM brief unprotected anal 4/27/23

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25 months ago
Hello Doctors,
I am a 47 y/o gay male. Had one brief, unprotected anal receptive sexual encounter with another male who identified being on PrEP. The incident happened on April 27, 2023 of this year and was my only sexual encounter this year. 
I had the following testing follow ups and are curious if I can stop testing.
May 22, 2023- I went to Quest Labs and have an HIV RNA/ Qualitative as well as a 4th Generation test- both "non-reactive"
May 30, 2023- Had another 4th Generation test along with syphilis- both "non-reactive"
June 7, 2023- "Insti" finger prick test [believe it was a 3rd Generation Test]  was also "non-reactive"
June 14, 2023- Quest Diagnostics 4th Generation Test- "non reactive"
June 26, 2023- Alere Determine [I believe was a 4th Generation ab/ag finger prick rapid] along with a Syphilis "rapid" test [did not know they offered these until the person offered it to me].  Both were "non-reactive".

I am unsure if I need to test again at the 12 week mark, as suggested on most forums. Just curious.
On a side note, I was on 7 Day antibiotic from April 29-May 6 called Docxycycline for an upper respiratory infection- not sure if syphilis would have been aborted taking this medication 2 days after the incident. I completed the 7 days according to my sinus regime.
Thanks for any imput.

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25 months ago
Also did want to add, as I forgot,  
There was no ejaculation and the penetration was for about 10 minutes...so pre seminal fluids is my concern.
He claimed he was on PreP.  I am looking into PreP before any future sexual possibilities...but my liver enzymes were higher due to doing Keto regime and will have to have another metabolic panel before I start PreP.
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25 months ago
I will also get anal swab related to gon/chlamydia in the next week or so...just unsure if the happenstance of taking that antibiotic would have also prevented those bacterial STIs.   I have read on here that "conclusive" testing is 6 weeks with the 4th Generation ab/ag test, but unsure if the same applies regardless of risk.   Thanks.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
25 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thank you for your question and for your confidence in our services. Sorry for the slightly longer than usual delay before replying.

You don't need to be told that unprotected anal with another male is high risk for HIV, and receptive anal is the highest risk of all sexual practices. However, your partner being on PrEP dramatically lowered the risk. But at this point, the level of risk at the time of exposure doesn't really matter, because your test results prove you do not have HIV. The earliest tests were reassuring, but not definitive, but the negative results June 14 and 26 were beyond the 45 days that marks conclusive negative results with the AgAb (4th generation) HIV blood tests. That standard indeed applies regardless of the level of risk when exposed. Although many agencies still recommend testing at three months, it really isn't necessary for the AgAb tests, and CDC endorses the evidence for 45 days (which on this forum we often round off to 6 weeks, since 3 additional days makes no significant difference). Your follow-up comment, with implied uncertainty that your partner really was on PrEP, doesn't matter since risk at exposure is no longer an issue.

As for other STDs, your negative syphilis blood tests are conclusive as well; for sure you don't have syphilis. In addition, doxycycline would have aborted syphilis if you were exposed, so there's double security you don't have it. I would have recommended anal testing for gonorrhea and chlamydia quite a while ago. Those tests are valid any time 4-5 days or more after exposure. Good plan to do that now. You could skip the chlamydia test: there is no possibility of still having it if you ever did; doxycycline is 100% effective. However, doxycycline isn't reliable against gonorrhea, and in almost all labs chlamydia testing is automatic when gonorrhea is tested. You can expect negative results for both.

I endorse your plan to start PrEP. But even with PrEP, condoms would be a good idea -- a lot less important for HIV protection, because PrEP is so effective, but you don't want other STDs either! That said, in the event you expect to continue condomless anal sex, either insertive or protective, you should speak with your doctor about possible doxycycline prophylaxis to prevent syphilis and, secondarily, chlamydia plus partial protection against gonorrhea. It's just a single 200 mg dose before or within a couple days after sex. This strategy, called Doxy-PrEP, has recently proved highly effective especially against syphilis and chlamydia, and official CDC guidance on it is expected within the next few weeks. Most HIV-knowledgeable physicians and clinics are aware of doxy-prep and already are prescribing it.

So almost certainly all is well. Go ahead with the anal gonorrhea (and chlamydia test), but you don't need any further tests for either HIV or syphilis. Go ahead with HIV PrEP and discuss doxy-prep with your doctor.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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25 months ago
Thank you Dr. Handsfield for your candid response.  I purposely titled the "MSM" in the title for any future [gay] males that may need to reference this post rather than your need to repeat it to other forum posters.

I did suggest a Doxycycline regimen to my PCP about future sexual exposures [as I have researched that alternative]. His response was one of quasi ambiguity...since there was a recent article via SF Health Clinic that disavowed this measure as a plausible measure to decrease gonorrhea due to possible resistance of this bacterial STI.

In regards to syphilis [as I agree with you that I have/had it]:  If tested for Syphilis, does the test via Quest or the rapid test for this STI indicate current infection? Or do the tests for Syphilis also indicate past infection?  I have been tested for Syphilis in the past, just unsure what the RPR looks for? current/past infections?

I also have had no symptoms regarding anal infections [gonorrhea, herpes, etc]..I assume this is a good sign?
I will follow through with the swab test in the next weeks regardless.
I had read that a four week HIV 4th Generation Test [5/31/23] coupled with the 22 day HIV RNA  [5/22/23] test was pretty solid for closure.  As a gay man, I know the population is a "higher risk"  factor, that is why I followed through with the beyond  6 week test. 
Thanks for responding.

P.S. I actually own the book you contributed to years ago.  Thanks for your contribution to ASHA with your wisdom/experience in this field.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
25 months ago
You and/or your doctor may not entirely understand San Francisco public health's stand on doxy-prep. As of last October, SF public health became the first prominent health agency to officially recommend it for MSM at high risk, with the main goal of preventing syphilis. There indeed is theoretical risk doxy-prep could promote increased antibiotic resistance, but the largest trials analyzed so far show modest protection against gonorrhea and, so far, no increased antibiotic resistance. CDC's anticipated guidance likely will be similar to current SF and Seattle-King County Public health recommendations.

I don't follow your comments about syphilis; I didn't say you have or ever had it. Negative RPR is solid proof against current syphilis but does not rule out past syphilis. You don't mention the newer EIA syphilis test. If done and negative, it excludes both current and past syphilis.

Indeed MSM are the population group at maximum risk of syphilis in the US, but that does not dictate HIV testing (by AgAb test) more than 45 days after a potential exposure. The combination of negative tests you describe (AgAb ~4 weeks plus RNA 3 weeks also is conclusive. You really didn't need any further tests after you had those results even though most experts would still advise a final AgAb test after 6 weeks. 

Thanks for your comment about one of my books. I imagine you're referring to AIDS Dx/Rx, way back in 1990. And thanks for your kind comments about ASHA. (Maybe consider a tax deductible donation!)
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24 months ago
Thanks Dr. Handsfield.

As a follow up [since the April 27th incident], I had swabs for gonorrhea, chlamydia from: anal/mouth/urine as well as an additional follow-up for Syphilis on July 19th, 2023 [last week performed].   

The Health Dept. reported all as "non-reactive"/negative.    I inquired about the Syphilis EIA test, and the nurse stated via phone "We {health dept} do an antibody test".  "Had your test been reactive it would go for an RPR and a TPPR test"?  She stated that the test I was provided would denote past infection [if there indeed was one].  She stated they "use to provide solely the RPR, but it missed many more infections".  Though I did not want to waste her time, I really did not know the difference between all three [antibody/RPR/TTPR". 

The follow-up, yet required, HIV test [4th generation] they do on site was also non-reactive.   

I will look into PrEP and use condoms regularly for future use, knowing that I am considered more of a high-risk candidacy pool than my heterosexual counterparts. 

Thanks for your answer with this scenario.
Ill put forth a donation towards ASHA. 
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
24 months ago
Glad to hear all your tests were negative. You can rely completely on the negative syphilis test, whichever one you have. The cure you spoke with is wrong in her statement (or you misunderstood her) that EIA detects more infections than RPR. It is equally valid to perform either EIA or RPR as the initial screening test. For either one, a positive result is followed by additional, confirmatory testing. Starting with EIA and then RPR second is now called the "reverse algorithm", compared with the "traditional algorithm", i.e. RPR followed by EIA (+/- TPHA, FTA-ABS, or others). Each has its advocates depending mostly on the clinical setting, how high the risk of syphilis is, and other factors.

Thanks for the thanks and especially for your planned donation to ASHA! Best wishes and stay safe.
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