[Question #10139] PREP (and etc)
25 months ago
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Hello,
I am a gay man on PrEP and am a little confused by something I saw on the CDC website. Under the heading "How Long Does It Take PrEP to Work" it says that maximum protecting for bottoming it reached at 7 days, etc. Then it goes on to say this:
"No data are available for PrEP pill effectiveness for insertive anal sex (topping) or insertive vaginal sex."
Am I correct that htis means there are no data for HOW LONG it takes PrEP to be effective for tops? This sentence almost makes it seem like there is no proof that PrEP is effective in protecting tops from HIV...but that can't be right, can it?
Long story short: Am I correct that PrEP reduces the likelihood of contracting HIV by 99% regardless of position during anal sex?
25 months ago
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My second question is: Can a wart on a finger be transmitted to the genitals or anus? After having intercourse with a regular sex partner, I noticed he had what looked like a wart on his finger. If it was a wart, should I be worried about the fact that he had his hands on my penis and also fingered my anus? Im not sure if type of warts that infect the hand can be transmitted to the genitals
Thanks!
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
25 months ago
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Welcome to the Forum. I'll apologize in advance for what may seem like a complex and nuanced response. The issue of when PrEP is maximally effective is still debated and is likely affected by a number of variables. Drugs get to and accumulate in different tissues in the body (the rectum, the vaginal elsewhere) at different rates; in addition, different sorts of sex acts carry a different risk for infection if exposed. The CDC, which tends to be conservative in its advice, states that PrEP, taken as directed, becomes maximally effective for prevention of HIV acquisition due to receptive rectal intercourse (the highest risk activity for HIV acquisition) at 7 days but states that PrEP is maximally effective for prevention of HIV acquired through receptive vaginal sex at as long as three weeks. These ESTIMATES are based on drug levels measured at the site of infection, data on the relative site to site variation in risk for infection, and clinical trial data. That said they are only estimates. We do however also know the so-called PrEP on demand, taken just the day before a risky sexual exposure is almost as effective as PrEP taken regularly and long-term. With PrEP on demand, the drug is started just hours before a potentially risky exposure and then for 48 hours thereafter . Thus there is a difference between when PrEP begins to be effective in reducing risk for HIV acquisition and when it is maximally effective. Further, as you may have noticed, while there are estimated for the effectiveness of PrEP for reactive rectal intercourse and receptive vaginal intercourse, there are simply no good data on insertive sex, in part because these exposures, on the risk continuum are somewhat lower risk, making it hard to determine firm effectiveness levers other than to say it works. Bottom line- virtually any PrEP is helpful but, particularly for person often at risk, regular PrEP is the way to go.
As for transmission of warts through masturbation, this is simply not a major concern. This is based both on observation as well as the fact that the types of HPV which typically cause warts on fingers, hands and feet are different types from the types which cause genital and rectal infection and these types do not tend to infect other types of tissue. In addition, for perspectives sake, I would also point out that as this is a regular partner, you've no doubt already been exposed, probably on multiple occasions. I would not worry.
I hope this information is helpful. EWH
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24 months ago
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Thank you, Dr Hook!
24 months ago
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Really quick clarification:
So, PrEP is indeed as effective (something like 98%) in preventing HIV for the insertive partner as it is for the receptive partner; we just don't have as much specific data for receptive as we do for receptive anal? Is that about right?
24 months ago
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Whoops, I made an error in my last question. Here it is, corrected:
So, PrEP is indeed as effective (something like 98%) in preventing HIV for the insertive partner as it is for the receptive partner; we just don't have as much specific data for INSERTIVE as we do for receptive anal? Is that about right?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
24 months ago
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Your summary is about right. Remember however that HIV and STI transmission is probabilistic and involves, among other things, the biological "efficiency" of the potential exposure. By this i mean that being the insertive partner in rectal intercourse is less likely to result in infection than being the receptive partner if your partner happens to have HIV. PrEP however greatly reduces risk irrespective of the sort of exposure but, if failures were to occur, all things being equal, bottoming would be more likely to be one of the very rare PrEP failures than topping. You are correct that, becasue failures are less common, the data on failures for insertive partners is also less. EWH---