[Question #10272] 1 year later
24 months ago
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Hello. I have asked two questions since my "exposure" August 27th of 2022. RN Warren and DR. Hook were very helpful in questions #9574 and #9729. On August 7th 2023 (yesterday) i got tested for HIV with a 4th generation test, and for HSV1/HSV2 AB IGG. I have had no new exposures since August 27th of 2022. Am i correct to understand that I do not have HIV? The trickier part for me is the HSV2. I have tested negative several times all the way out to almost 1 year, and I have never had symptoms. But from what I read it can be difficult to diagnose. Can I be VERY confident that I dont have HSV2? My doctor says that the IGG tests are not perfect but are "very good". I am now ready to safely date again. Have I done everything I can to assure I am responsibly moving forward? Thank you for the service you provide.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
24 months ago
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Welcome back. Thanks for your continued confidence in the forum, but I'm a bit sorry you found it necessary. I reviewed your discussions with Ms. Warren and Dr. Hook. I'm happy to confirm that all three of us agree with one another on your situation.
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Dr. Hook was very clear that it never takes more than 6 weeks (45 days if you're splitting hairs) for the HIV AgAb (4th generation) blood tests to become positive. All tests after that interval from the exposure you are concerned about were unnecessary and simply reconfirmed your earlier results. Stop testing!
As for herpes, I'm going to expand on the reassurance you had from Terri and Dr. Hook. In my view it is certain you did not acquire HSV2 during the exposure a year ago. Terri's 92% figure is the proportion of people with known HSV2 who have positive results on the standard blood tests -- i.e. only 8% have false negative result. But that's not the only evidence to consider. Your sexual contact was 18 days before she developed her symptoms, and the evidence is conclusive that she had a newly acquired (primary) infection. Symptoms of primary HSV2 usually start 3-5 days after exposure, rarely more than 8-10 days, so you had at least a week and likely a two week buffer before she acquired the infection. In other words, there is no realistic possibility you were exposed to HSV2 during that event; she didn't have it yet. Absence of symptoms on your part is also is evidence against being infected. Yes, asymptomatic HSV2 infections occur and are not rare. However, that's often because people just don't notice or understand the significance of mild symptoms. When someone is anxious and on the alert -- as you obviously were -- most newly infected people will know it.
So the answer is yes, you can be "VERY confident" (i.e. nearly 100% certain) you do not have HSV2. If somehow I had been in your situation -- which certainly could have been possible back in my dating days -- I would have been seeking and feeling comfortable having sex with new partners 8-10 months ago. Moving back into the dating game now would not be irresponsible at all.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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24 months ago
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Well now that I have corresponded with all three of you I can thank your entire team. I think that a year ago when the incident happened it sent me into a whirlwind of panic/anxiety. I can now speak from experience what you guys must already know. When anxiety takes hold a person is nearly impossible to reason with. Thank you all for your patience and knowledge. I will now SAFELY and RESPONSIBLY get back to normal. Take care
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
24 months ago
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We're all glad to have been of help. Thanks for the thanks. Given your positive experiences with the forum, perhaps you'd like to extend your thanks with a tax deductible donation to the forum sponsor, the American Sexual Health Association. ASHA is the one of the lead NGOs in support of sexual health and the only one with a particular emphasis on STI prevention. Dr. Hook and I are former members of the Board of Directors. There's a donation link, if you're interested, on the website www.ashasexualhealth.org.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
24 months ago
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In looking at my initial reply above, I see an important typo. The 92% figure is the proportion of HSV2 infected people with positive blood test results, not negative -- i.e. the false negative frequency is 8%. You apparently understood, but I've gone back and corrected the original to assure no confusion for other users who may read it.---
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