[Question #10273] Follow point 1b that’s it final follow up hepatitis c hiv etc hollow needle only
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24 months ago
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Hello I had final follow up left but I fully like to use this consult
May I move forward by following point 1b
I returned you misunderstood question 1 of my previous post but it doesn’t matter ill still explain
1) what does drug injection equipment mean?
Answer : drug injection equipment means ONLY means hollow needle and syringes no other kind of objects this we verified .
1b) to translate drug injection equipment in simple English
If I DONT share drug injection equipment that is share hollow needle with syringe ONLY or have sex and I will NEVER get hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds or other blood borne infections ?
can I just follow this and live my life ignore all other risks
2) therefore my Orginal question you misunderstood I meant on hiking trip the person who my son was hiking with may have a cut on his finger and may have gotten wet blood on gauze, bandaid from his bleeding finger
And applied it on my sons wound.
This is not how hiv , hepatitis c or any other blood borne infections are transferred if we assume the person who was with my son was infected with these viruses
Why ? Because we get hiv hepatitis c or hepatitis b or stds from hollow needles with syringes or sex that’s it
This is irrelevant as you said
2b) answer for lancet prick , or other sharp objects if person immediately cut prick himself with lancet and then cut me with me this again won’t cause hiv hepatitis c or hepatitis, stds or other blood borne infections .
This is again assuming person is infected with these blood borne infections
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24 months ago
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3) I never worry about injury from discarded hollow needle with syringe or without syringe attached to needle for any blood borne infections especially hepatitis c . As you said IN any case how many seconds , minutes hours , needle syringe was outside no knows at doesn’t matter
As it’s not the same as sharing hollow needles with syringe where you inject blood
I would like to Exapand on this thanks in follow up
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
24 months ago
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Welcome back to our forum. I’m sorry you felt the need however. In reviewing your earlier interaction with Dr. Handsfield it seems to be that he completely understood your multiple questions regarding exposure to blood and body fluids which might contain HIV or hepatitis virus and provided you with accurate answers. I will answer your questions at this time however, much of what I am about to say repeat the messages that Dr. Handsfield has already given. Before I deal with your questions, one by one, let me say, once again, that the exposures that you are concerned about while hiking with your son, were entirely no risk events for acquisition of HIV, hepatitis, virus, or other blood-borne infections. With that I will work through your follow up questions.
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1. This question was answered by Dr. Handsfield and you have answered it yourself as well. The term drug injection equipment speaks of hollow point needles through which material can be injected into or withdrawn from another person. It does not include solid point lancets, which do not have hollow points, and therefore cannot retain blood which might be transferred to another person if that person was stuck, after the last it had been used.
1B. The statement you make is correct. If you not do not receive injections using previously used injection equipment and do not have unprotected sex with persons with untreated, HIV infection you are not at risk for acquiring, HIV, C, or other blood-borne infections.
2. Application of a gauze, or other piece of material which might have blood or secretions from an infected person to your son is a no risk event. These viruses become non-infectious almost immediately upon exposure to the air and do not spread through passage through material such as gauze. In fact, the virus particles would stick to the gauze fibers.
2b. I answered this question above. Solid point lancets are designed to not be used more than once, and the tips bend, and no longer pierce the skin after one use so that they could be use the second time. More importantly, because the points of lancets are solid they cannot carry infectious material on the inside of the hollow area that is found in needles.
3, you have explained the situation well. I will not repeat what you have already said.
I hope the information that I have provided, which is virtually the same as information already provided to you by Dr. Handsfield, is clear and will address your concerns. Nothing you’ve described suggests any reason for concern about your son and the bandage that was applied to his knee. It is time for you to put these concerns behind you and to move forward without continuing concerts. I hope my replies will help you to do that. EWH.
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24 months ago
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mr hook English isn’t my first BELIVE me I will move forward if you can give me this final push
1) what do I have to do avoid hiv hepatitis c or hepatitis b or stds or blood borne Infections ?
Do not share drug injection equipment (hollow needle with syringe only) that you insert in your vein
or have sex
THERE ARE NO OTHER WAYS I get these blood borne infections
2) in simple English if you just see point 1 above I have written (ONLY hollow needle with syringe )
To tell you sir what drug injection equipment means
NO other objects of any kind will transfer these blood borne infections
2b) So therefore No other objects such as gauze or bandaid ,or sharp object such as lancet finger prick if contaminated with wet blood or dry blood
CANNOT transfer hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds or other blood borne infections
Why ? Because these objects( gauze bandaid lancet knife etc ) are NOT drug injection equipment
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3) my one clarification is this from previous post point number 2 did you understand ? BLEEDING FINGER ?
The person who was applying gauze on my sons wound on his knee
That person may have CUT on his finger and BLEEDING finger but any wet blood coming out of his finger was exposed to air so hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis or stds All become IMMEDIATELY non infectious thus cannot infect my son with any virus
So that’s why any wet blood the person got from his bleeding finger on gauze will not transmit hiv hepatitis c or b or any blood borne infections etc to my son this way
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24 months ago
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3) my one clarification is this from previous post point number 2 did you understand
The person who was applying gauze on my sons wound on his knee
That person may have CUT on his finger and BLEEDING finger but any wet blood coming out of his finger was exposed to air so hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis or stds All become IMMEDIATELY non infectious thus cannot infect my son with any virus
So that’s why any wet blood the person got from his bleeding finger on gauze will not transmit hiv hepatitis c or b or any blood borne infections etc to my son this way
4) last clarification if you see point 2b and 2 of my previous post did you understand ???
Even if it was IMMEDIATE injury wet blood exposure between two people (sharp object such as lancet prick ) for point 2b
& 2 from previous post IMMEDIATE wet blood exposure coming out of Person bleeding finger on gauze to wound
4b) same is true for body fluids semen etc
5) for questions 1 and 1b this drug injection equipment only means hollow needle used to inject right ?
In link below
I apologize English not my first language BUT this is LIFE changing
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24 months ago
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I have ACCIDENTALLY POSTED POINT NUMBER 3 TWICE
I Apologize the post is LONG because of that point number 3 is the same so sorry
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24 months ago
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I apologize point 3 has been posted twice that’s why post is long
Just to clear your replies are clear
Just clear this YOU Understood person applying gauze , bandage on my son had BLEEDING FINGER thats all
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
24 months ago
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Your questions are repetitive. Thus answers will be brief. Please understand that your questions are fully understood. Straight to your repetitive questions:
1. Your statement is correct and repetitive. If you choose to have sex, condoms worn throughout the encounter are highly protective against HIV and hepatitis C.
2. A. You are correct, we are referring to hollow point needles, not solid lancets.
2b. Correct and repetitive
3. I understood the situation fully. I understand that the person applying the gauze had a bleeding cut on his finger. Still NO RISK as I said before.
4a and b. Understood and repetitive.
5. Repetitive and correct.
Please stop your repetitive questions. The answers will not change. EWH
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24 months ago
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Thank you I’m using some sort of translator
1a) About Person getting wet blood gauze or bandaid from a bleeding finger and apply on wound thanks for mentioning that
But also did you understand the same for lancet prick if person prick himself immediately with lancet used for finger prick or Sharp object like knife got wet blood then pricks me with it immediately and caused bleeding
These examples above will not cause hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or any other blood borne infections
If you assume the person is infected with these blood borne infections
1b)Because two reason
First reason Any wet blood coming out of the person bleeding finger because of the cut on his finger is exposed to environment and IMMEDIATELY becomes non infectious for hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds blood borne infections
1c) Second reason MOST IMPORTANTLY above only we get hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds or blood borne infections from hollow needle with syringe drug injection equipment that we insert in vein to inject or unprotected sex
So I can now STOP Worrying
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24 months ago
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2) LOOK thats enough can I just remind myself ?
We only get hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds or blood borne infections from Share drug injection equipment or unprotected sex
And drug injection equipment ONLY means hollow needle with syringe attached and inject into your vein that it
DRUG INJECTION Equipment doesn’t mean ANY OTHER OBJECT like gauze bandaid knife lancet etc no matter how immediate wet blood exposure (bleeding finger ) or body fluid
3) there is one final issue left
In my first post start of the thread point number of 3
Injury from Discarded needle it doesn’t matter if hollow needle is attached to the Syringe or not
3b) And there no cases of anyone getting blood borne infections hiv hepatitis b
this way especially HEPATITIS C like getting injured e.g stepped on syringe with needle attached
How may seconds ? Or minutes was the needle or syringe outside it doesn’t matter
As it’s not
4) when you said virus is non infectious? That means I cannot get infected with hiv hepatitis c stds etc
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24 months ago
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5)your reply was brief reply please do mention THIS IS the drug injection equipment doctor hunter says
It’s hollow needle with syringe so that im clear
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24 months ago
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Hi in point 2 do mention that remind yourself what drug injection equipment means hollow needle with syringe and forget the rest
Do mention hiv hepatitis c cannot be transferred from bleeding finger
Do mention hepatitis c especially no cases for discarded needle
And and it doesn’t matter syringe attached or not to the hollow needle
As it’s not the same as sharing hollow needle when you inject in vein
This will
HELP
Thank you take care of yourself
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24 months ago
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And when I wrote stds that’s means for e.g Syphilis etc blood or body fluids
And blood borne infections means everything hepatitis c hiv etc right ?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
24 months ago
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This will be the final response to this thread. You are repetitive, anxiety, driven questions are abusing the service. Each of these questions has been answered largely already, and should not have been repeated. Following completion of this response, the thread will be close and there will be no further responses. If you return to the forum with further questions, your question may not be answered and will be closed without return of your posting fee.
1. This is a repetitive question which has been answered. You have already been told that HIV and hepatitis C are not transmitted on a previously used solid point lancet.
1B. This is a repetitive question, which has been answered already. Your statement is correct.
1c. This is another repetitive question. Your statement is correct.
2. This is a repetitive question which is been previously verified. The statement is correct.
3. This is a correct statement. Needle previously used by a person with HIV or hepatitis see is potentially infected following a needle stick
3b. This is a hypothetical question for which There are no scientific data to provide an answer.
4. Your definition of the word non-infectious is correct.
5. The needles in the picture are hollow point needles. That’s all statements about hollow point needles apply to the needles for which you were provided a picture.
This completes this thread. Once again, I warn you that if you post further questions of the sort you have been doing, the question may be closed without a response and without return of your posting fee. EWH.
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