Hiv gen 4 ab/ag lab test - day 50 - negative

Hiv gen 4 ab/ag lab test - day 72 - negative

Are my results conclusive. I have gone down the rabbit hole and stress is ruining me. I need advice. I’m getting random sickness in this time and keep resorting back to possible hiv it’s a never ending cycle.

Thank you for your time

I'm happy to reassure you unequivocally that you don't have HIV, for two independent and nearly equally certain reasons. First, HIV is never transmitted by the sort of exposure you describe. There has never been a known case of sexual transmission by body rubbing without penetration, or by fingering (anal, vaginal, or any other) or other hand-genital contact. Second, your test results are conclusive:  nobody has ever been known to have a new HIV infection that did not test positive by the AgAb (4th generation) blood test by 45 days, so both your 50 day and 72 day results are conclusive. In addition, blood test results overrule any and all symptoms:  even if you had described the most typical symptoms of HIV, the test results prove HIV is not the cause.

Is online searching part of the reason you "keep resorting back possible HIV"? Anxious persons tend to be drawn to information that maximizes their fears and to miss the reassuring information that also can be found. If this is an issue for you, I would suggest no further internet research on HIV symptoms etc.

I hope this information resolves your concerns -- please let me know if it doesn't or if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD

I think I keep resorting back to it mainly as a guilt for the actions I’ve participated in. Are there any other possible stds I can contract from these acts. I’ve been cleared for clamydia, Gonorrhea and syphilis on that 50 day mark aswell so it’s none of those.. A few days ago under my arm pits kind of tingled and felt abit sore aswell as neck pain and I can feel a few nodes through my neck (they are normal sized) aswell as a small red rash that pops on my chest for about 5 minutes randomly then disappears. Unsure if I’ve always had these and just become self aware now that I’m stressing. 

There are just a lot of mixed reviews of window periods for testing online and it’s had to get a set in stone answer which makes me overthink what if I’ve contracted HIV

You can consider my reply above and here as "set in stone". There is no possibility of HIV or any other STD. Period.

So there is no chance of 2 duo lab tests and the described date of testing pre exposure that could turn positive at a later date even though my risk was not a risk? 

Could you also clarify why people still suggest 90 days to be conclusive instead of 6weeks, like our local government does (Australia)

Thank you again for all your help and I appreciate the effort you guys put in to inform the community 

"...why people still suggest 90 days to be conclusive...." This is highly variable and most experts (e.g. US CDC) advise 45 days. I can't speak to all of Australia, but my understanding is that most if not all your country's federally supported sexual health centres, which comprise the world's best network of STI/HIV clinics, advise 6 weeks or 45 days for the AgAb tests. If you have any remaining doubt, you might visit your nearest SHC. If you happen to be in Melbourne or Sydney, you have access to the best of the best.

Perhaps you also would like to know that in the 20 years of this and our preceding forum, with thousands of questions from persons worried about having been exposed to HIV, not one has yet reported that they eventually tested positive. You won't be the first. If and when it finally happens, I'm confident it will be a truly risky exposure (like unprotected anal sex with a known infected partner) and not an extremely low risk event like yours. It also will not involve falsely negative test results before finally having a positive result. 

That complex the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so concludes this thread. Thanks for the thanks; I'm glad to have helped.