[Question #10501] Testing accuracy BELIVE test results ?avoid hiv hepatitis c etc

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22 months ago
Dear doctors I am need of your help desperate help  

1) I had normal blood draw from vein did a test for hiv hepatitis c/b and std Anual blood draw from vein 
I just wanted to ask nurse  toched my vein (injection site ) before inserting needle in vein 
She didn’t rub alcohol  swab again 

So if there was any blood or body fluid on nurse glove on  and got on my injection site(where you insert the needle ) I know This not a risk for any virus hiv or hepatitis c ,hepatitis b or stds  or other blood borne viruses as these viruses not transmitted from environment(outside the body ) 

But my QUESTION IS this doesn’t effect the accuracy of my test result right  if any blood or body fluid that was got on my arm from nurse glove would get sucked into the hollow needle and then Into blood collection tube (vacutainer ) during blood draw 

 I can believe my tests and doctor hunter says they are FOOL PROOF doesn’t matter right ?

2) i have read on your forum once you test just BELIVE YOUR RESULTS after window period once they come negative 
So I didn’t need to worry about how my blood is drawn from vein  just accept the results ?

3) finally your forum is helpful to avoid viruses such as hiv  hepatitis c or hepatitis b or stds or any other blood borne infections 
Just don’t share drug injection equipment or have unprotected sex there are NO other ways we get these blood borne infections or stds 

Just clearing all doubts on this unprotected sex means bare penis INSIDE Vagina or anus or mouth 

And drug injection equipment means hollow needle that you share to inject yourself in vein using a syringe  


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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
22 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question and also for reading other questions with issues similar to your own, and even for quoting some things I have written on the forum.

You have correctly understood what you read on the forum, and perhaps elsewhere. There is zero chance you acquired any blood borne infection while having your blood specimen collected.  You actually misunderstand the purpose of health care workers wearing gloves and taking other precautions about contact with patients' blood. It is to protect the nurse or other health worker from infections the patient might have -- NOT to protect the patient! Perhaps more pertinent to your concerns, it is probable that nobody in the world has ever caught HIV, HBV, or other blood borne infections from having blood drawn whether or not alcohol swabs were properly used or any other details of how blood was drawn. Such infections in the distant past occurred ONLY when the same injection equipment was used in patient after patient without sterilization. The single-use disposable equipment in universal use today has been 100% effective in preventing such infections the last 40-50 years.

Those comments pretty well answer your numbered questions, but to assure no misunderstanding:

1) Correct:  the standard protections and blood draw procedures are "fool proof".
2) Correct: Disregard how the blood was collected and accept the test results.
3) Also correct about unprotected sex and shared injection equipment being the only way you ever might get HIV or other blood borne infections.

And yes, you correctly understand the information you state about unprotected sex and drug equipment.

I hope these comments have been helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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22 months ago
FIRST I appreciate you REPLYING ago me sir I am  almost out of it 

1) JUST DOUBLE CHECKING it doesn’t matter if nurse toched by injection site (where needle was inserted )and. Did not rub alcohol swab again 
My concern any dirt or blood on glove  that got on my inject site (arm ) could flow into my blood sample when she inserted the needle  
But obviously you UNDERSTOOD that  this will not contaiminate my blood sample  ?? 
YES I will now accept and MOVE on accept my  blood draw results 
My test are For hiv hepatitis c/b or stds are all accurate  

2) I have one MAJOR issue which well I need your help 
Look needle stick injury that cause  bleeding that  health care workers get immediately when removing hollow needle from patient during injection or blood draw  process 
Does not cause hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or blood borne infections  
Reason Because needle sticks don’t have the ability to inject blood into our body 
This answer has been given to me by  TWO  proper infections disease specialists  with  decades of experience who i am discussing with 
And they are saying I NEED TO trust them with this and not worry what other doctors  say 

Out of RESPECT dr hunter would you agree with my doctors ? so I may conquer my fear on needle sticks 

3) I just need to ask one clean  more more thing after This 

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
22 months ago
These are repeat questions. Did you think I might have changed my mind?

1) Correct:  it doesn't matter and your negative test results are accurate.

2) Needle sticks of course have the ability to inject blood into your body, if they were recently used on an infected person -- and nobody ever re-uses needles. (Now you have had the same advice from THREE "proper infectious disease specialists with decades of experience".)

3) If you intend to ask something else, IT MUST NOT BE ANOTHER REPEAT QUESTION. If it is, this thread will be terminated with no further reply. Thank you for your understanding.
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22 months ago
Hello I don’t think I’ll be able ask my other question due to word limit 


1) IM SORRY you misunderstood my previous question question  2 of previous post 

I am saying my experts doctors are saying that NEEDLE sticks from hollow needles that health care workers get immediately when removing needle from patient vein during blood draw or injection 

Does NOT Cause hiv hepatitis b or hepatitis c or stds or other blood borne infections 

NO means NO this is what my two expert doctors are telling me to move forward from  this fear of needle sticks  and further they said  NO need to ask what others  doctors say  on needle sticks so that I don’t get confused anymore 

Reason my doctors gave was needle sticks cannot inject blood into the body  that’s why Health care workers don’t get infected with any hiv hepatitis c blood borne infections from needle sticks 

Out of RESPECT  would you AGREE with my Doctors? 

2 )My doctors are CERTAIN that Needle stick  don’t cause hiv hepatitis b c  or other blood borne infections 

Another reason they gave me was you need push plunger of syringe to inject blood into the body 
And needle sticks cannot inject blood  that’s why you cannot get hiv hepatitis b/c or other blood borne infections from needle sticks 


I hope you understand my English and what my doctors are saying thanks again 

Can I now forget about needle sticks ?


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22 months ago
3) to be clear sir I’m no longer talking about blood draw 

My question is GENERAL on needle stick

And what do I want ? Just asking if you agree with my doctors

As they say we don’t see any case of needle stick injury even to health care workers for Any blood borne infections 

This they are certain about 


Sorry for  long post I hope you can agree with my doctors 
Would mean the world to me
Take care 
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
22 months ago
I understand your English. But still your questions real you have entirely irrational fears of HIV and other infections from medical procedures. There are no procedures that ever will put you at risk. You will never get HIV unless and until you have unprotected sex or share drug needles with other persons. Please stop worrying about getting HIV when you receive health care.

1) Yes, the most common exposure that has infected health care workers have involved hollow needles. But others involved things like cuts with blood contaminated scalpels.

2) When your doctors say needle sticks do not transmit HIV (hollow or otherwise), I'm sure they mean needles not used on previous patients. Needles and syringes of course can inject blood, if there is blood in them. But that never happens, so why are you asking about it. I agree with your doctors that having blood drawn in a medical never is a risk for HIV or other blood borne infections.

That concludes this thread. Please do not start a new one that repeats these questions. Since your English skills apparently are not strong, perhaps you should have a friend with better English review my replies with you and make sure you understand. Every one of your questions has been answered. 

I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.
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