[Question #10563] deep kissing - transexual escort
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21 months ago
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hi
almost 6 years (december 2017) ago i deep/french kissed a transexual escort. i did not see any blood although i do recall that the mouth (teeth?) was not so "attractive". no oral or anal sex whatsoever.
after more than a year (april 2019) i had a finger prick HIV test (https://www.autotest-sante.com/en/autotest-VIH-par-AAZ-139.html) which was negative.
fast forward to 2023, and i started suffering from chronic allergic pharyngitis, and having problems with regular tonsil infections - my GP says that it is probably the result of school age kids in the house.
however i read on the internet that such problems can be the result of latent hiv, and i sometimes worry whether this kiss could have been the cause...can i kindly ask for your opinion? i did have a CBC recently which did not show any issues.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
21 months ago
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Welcome to our Forum. Thanks for your questions and your confidence in our service. I'll do my best to put your concerns to rest.
Your exposure was no risk. Most trans persons do not have HIV. More importantly, HIV is not transmitted by kissing, including deep kissing. This is the case even if your partner has poor dentition, gum disease, or a mouth sore- still no risk. Your finger stick test a year after the event is reliable and proves that you were not infected.
Please don't worry about HIV from the no risk encounter you describe. Also, I urge you to stay off the internet when seeking health-related information such as this. Much of what is there is incorrect, either because it is out of date, taken out of context, or just plain wrong.
Please don't worry. I see no reason for concern and no need for further testing. EWH
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21 months ago
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Thanks.. to be honest good thing I actually keep the test, as I was starting to have doubts as to whether I had done it correctly (it was a self test). However I checked again and the control line can still be seen, without any other line.
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21 months ago
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so the fact that it was a 3rd generation antibody test is of no concern, right?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
21 months ago
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Results of 3rd generation tests are conclusive any time more than 8 weeks following an encounter. Your results are conclusive, proving that your NO RISK encounter did not result in HIV infection. EWH---
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21 months ago
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may i kindly ask whether deep/french/open-mouth kissing in general is always safe, maybe except in the presence of a lot of visible blood (in which case i doubt any kissing would take place!)? in practice i doubt anybody would examine the other person's mouth prior to engaging in kissing
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21 months ago
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PS..and if there is some blood in the person's mouth which is not visible, would it still be safe, given that blood is one of the fluids which is stated to be able to transmit HIV...
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
21 months ago
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In terms of risk for HIV, or for that matter, hepatitis B or C, there are no data to suggest that kissing will transmit the infection. The presence of blood in the mouth, gum or tooth disease or oral ulcers do not change this assessment.
As you know, we provide up to three responses to each client's questions. This is my 3rd response. Therefore the thread will be closed shortly without further replies. Take care. Please don't worry. EWH
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20 months ago
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hi, the author in this paper (https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=102937) is arguing that deep kissing is in fact quite a high risk if a negative person kisses a positive person since positive persons tend to have oral conditions which result in blood in the mouth, especially after stimulation. what are your views?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
20 months ago
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This thread should have been closed and will be after this response.
I'm sorry you are having so much trouble moving forward despite the virtually no risk nature of your exposure and your test evidence that you were not infected. The paper you cite is not research but argues that kissing COULD be a potential source of HIV transmission/acquistion. I suspect that somewhere someone has acquired HIV from kissing- that does not make it a meaningful risk factor for HIV acquistion/transmission. The FACT however remains that there are NO SCIENTIFCALLY PROVEN instances in which HIV has been documented to have been acquired by kissing or receipt of oral sex. Put another way, is is possible- sure, in the same way that it is possible that you will be struck by a meteorite falling from space while reading this reply. We see no credible reason to worry about acquistion of HIV from kissing.
EWH