[Question #10632] Protected Handjob Giving/Receiving With Man

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21 months ago
I've been stressing about this all week. I just wanted to get some information from a professional. Had a friend come over for videogames. Never had a gay experience before. My friend had the idea of manual masturbation. Never done this before and my fiance was out of the house. I thought why not. We used nitrile gloves on each other's penis with lube of course. Both of us came. I threw my glove away in the bathroom plastic trashcan. I made sure not to make any contact with doorknobs or anything with that glove. I've been disinfecting door knobs, light switches, and washing my hands like crazy. After 4 days of this contact, I wanted to lessen my fears and double check that the glove was not ripped during. Since I had multiple used gloves in the trash can, it was hard to find which one exactly but I checked all of them for tears. Luckily, I didn't find any. I had a sense of fear when one of the used gloves lightly brushed past my wrist. I quickly removed my gloves and started washing the wrist and my hands with soap and water. By me removing my gloves, I think it slightly tore the skin on the top part of my hand near the knuckle. Is there a chance that while I was washing my hands and wrist that any bacteria could of traveled to the tiny scratch near my knuckle? Could any kind of std live on a latex glove for four days? I've read that they can be alive for seconds and some for weeks outside the body which scared me. Since we used gloves for manual masturbation, is there a small chance of catching any stds? Or is it definitely zero? I'm specifically worried about herpes and HPV since there is no test for them. Would stds linger on objects for very long? It would kill me if my amazing fiancé caught any of those from this stupid unfaithful act. Not sure what to do. I feel horrible. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
21 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your confidence in our services.

You needn't worry at all:  to quote your own phrase, the STD risk "is definitely zero". Even without the protection of gloves, hand-genital contact is risk free for all STDs. One can imagine a theoretical risk of those infections transmitted skin-to-skin, like herpes and HPV. But in practice it is exceedingly rare, if it occurs at all. And for sure there is no risk for HIV, gonorrhea, chlamydia or syphilis. Whether or not the gloves had defects in them, this is nothing to worry about. You don't need testing for anything. As for your statement "I feel horrible", my advice is to separate your fears of infection from whatever shame, guilt or anxiety you are experiencing just from the experience itself. They aren't the same! Deal with the latter as you need to -- but also be aware that such experimentation is extremely common these days. But for sure please don't worry about STDs or any other infections. It's truly not an issue.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear. Best wishes and stay safe.

HHH, MD
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21 months ago
Thank you for Dr.Handfield for the response. This answered my question about the handjob risk or lack there of when gloves are involved. I have experienced a lot of shame, guilt and anxiety. I will definitely schedule a time to talk to someone about that. I will never do anything like this ever again. Definitely not when we get married. At the time, I assumed this wasn't anything serious but it just felt so wrong. It still does. I guess I do have another question. More related to stds exposed to air. I am seeing different things everywhere but not sure. How long can stds survive outside the human body? Majority of them especially HPV and Herpes would be dead after 4 days right? Even if the glove I used touched my skin, there most likely was no bacteria or virus that would be actively trying to get to my body right? Some places make it seem like stds are indestructible in the right conditions and they will infect someone days later. I'm assuming right conditions have to be perfectly set up like in a lab or something. Another question that I can't find is that how deep does a cut or open wound need to be that it could get infected? Like does broken skin count as a way for bacteria or a virus to get in? Does it have to be a large amount of the virus or bacteria to cause an infection? All these questions come down to the incident related to the glove making contact with my wrist and washing my hands right after with broken skin near my knuckle, would this be a definite zero transmission of any kind of std? Apologies about the goofy questions. Just curious how potent stds are after a couple of days. How much would need to get on broken skin to cause an infection. 
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
21 months ago
These really aren't the right questions. STDs never, ever are transmitted by means other than sex -- never by environmental contamination, exposure to infected objects, or to blood or body fluids except by sex itself. Therefore, their survival time is irrelevant. Short survival time is maybe a small part of the reason non-sexual contacts don't infect anyone, but not the main explanation.

It does not matter whether living STD bacteria or viruses remained on the gloves when you later contacted them. You were not at risk regardless.

STDs are that way because the causative bacteria and viruses evolved to require large amounts of them to contact body cells or parts that are deep inside or otherwise not readily exposed. This is exactly the opposite of some infections, like influenza, colds, etc. These biological features is why we never see STDs in people who haven't actually had sex.

Please do your best to stop worrying, and ignore any other "what if", "yes but", or similar questions that may come to mind. Trust me on this:  there is no scenario that would make the events you described any risk for any STD. Got it?
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21 months ago
That makes sense. Thank you for explaining that in the first paragraph. I meant to ask, why do people mention cuts, open wounds, etc.? How would an std enter a cut? Would the cut have to be directly on a sexual organ or directly with fluids as it's leaving the body? Does the cut have to be really deep? When it comes to cuts and open wounds, is it just a theoretical risk and a little of misinformation? In my case, since there was no real sex and the fluids never touched my tiny cut, then I'm okay. If stds can only take place during sex, how do people get stds from sharing sex toys? Everything else you said made sense. Thank you for explaining that. Even if somehow a used glove touched the broken skin, then nothing would transfer? Would I be able to still have unprotected sex with my fiance? Hopefully move past this with no life long stds. I will stop worrying about it. Thank you for this. You helped me a lot today. Definitely been crying a lot less now. Thank you so much. I wish you the best.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
21 months ago
"Small cuts" on the genitals (or elsewhere) as a risk factor for HIV probably started from paranoid, unscientific assumptions based on the risks of true blood exposures; an inaccurate assumption that "cuts" implied open wounds where even a single virus could enter; and other mostly irrational fears. I've never heard or (or seen a scientific report) of a known HIV infection or other STD because of exposure of shaving burns, skin scratches, etc. And any cut that has healed enough to stop bleeding probably is protected by blood clot and other healing surfaces. Whatever the reasons, the whole business is best viewed as an urban myth that is sustained because there's just enough scientific plausibility. But it's truly not a significant issue.

Sharing sex toys counts as "having sex", when toys are used in rapid succession from one person to another. Even then, few infections actually occur that way. 

Thanks for the thanks. I'm glad the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.
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