[Question #1074] STD's

51 months ago
Hello, I'm going to ask a question thats been kicked around a while. I was stupid and went to an asian massage place a handful of times. I received a handjob without a condom twice... and a few other times I had a massage and had hot stone massage and she rubbed my shaft while I was face down and then cleaned me with a hot wet rag. I laid a "clean" towel on the massage table just incase it was dirty. My question is out of this... should I be worried about STD's or HIV and should I be tested?
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.

You are correct that this question has "been kicked around a while". Presumably you have scanned the forum and seen those questions and our replies, so my answers shouldn't surprise you.

Nobody gets STDs or HIV by hand-genital contact, or by having a massage, or by contact with fluids left behind by other massage customers (even if the massage parlor didn't change sheets between clients -- which probably happens most of the time). So the answer to your direct question is that you should not be worried at all and do not need testing for HIV or any other STD.

I hope this has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe--  HHH, MD

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51 months ago
Good Moring Dr. Handsfield, Thank you for replying to me question in regards to STD's and HIV. This all started a 2 years ago and I'd go every month of 2 and not all the places were the same. I think I've gone to get a massage like 20 times. I'd lay a "clean" towel over the area that I'd lay down in hopes that it would make it a bit cleaner. Out of all those times that I went I got one table shower and she washed me from my neck down, even my shaft. I'm not sure what the condition of the water was or if I had chance of catching something from that either. I have only had 2 full on hand jobs and 2 other times where I was laying down and there was some contact with my penis with hot rocks and I ending up cuming. like 8 months ago I had sex with my wife and pulled out I didn't clean up and I had some white/clean stuff on my shaft and a few days later It was pealing and had this white area on my shaft and and it was itchy and my pubic hair area had some relish spots like I was about to break out.  This lasted about 8-10 days and then it went away. My wife was trying a new health eating thing and she thinks she had a yeast infection. Plus sense then I've had a swollen lymph node behind my right ear and one on my lower left hand side of my head. I'm assuming they were lymph nodes... they seamed hard and slight sore to touch. They only lasted a few days. and then like 3-4 weeks ago I got this rash on my soft again that lasted a week and then was gone. I don't think there was any blisters. I had used some organic hemp, herbal/coconut oil the night before and I've noticed before that oil was a bit harsh on the shin. Am I just stressing out over guilt of what I've done.. Do you still feel that I'm in the clear? and that these symptoms are from something else... I try to stay very active and eat healthy too.. your thoughts?
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
None of these additional details change my opinions or advice. As noted above, nobody gets STDs from events like this, no matter how often:  They call them sexually transmitted for good reason, and no intercourse means no risk! As for your symptoms and your wife's, yeast infection are not an STD. I can't say what caused the past skin flaking of the penis, but I agree that the oils you used might be too harsh for delicate genital tissues.

So I remain confident there is no STD problem here and that something else (perhaps more than one thing) explains your symptoms and you wife's. But if you remain concerned, see a doctor for in-person reassurance (stricly for reassurance and accurate diagnosis of a possible non-STD problem, not because there is actually any STD risk).

Finally, try to separate your guilt and anxiety over some regretted sexual decisions and any medical consequences of those decisions. They aren't the same. Deal with the former as you need to, but disregard the latter.

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51 months ago
Dr. Handsfield, I do thank you for your priceless advice and ease of mind. I know that I've probably ran my questions beyond that I'm given.  but I don't to put this to rest... Does this also include STI's? or are STD's and STI's the same thing? So from the action that I took and my stupidity... I shouldn't worry? I've read in other websites that you can get STI's/STD's by  skin to skin contact... Does that mean that if she had something on her hand and then touched my penis to give a hand job would I get what ever that she might have had on her hand? Do you know where I'm going with this? My pee hole while having a hand job what if something got in? am I being paranoid or is that something to worry about? Also one of those times I had just shaved hours before and might have had a small razor cut? would that pose a problem also? Again I am very grateful for your handwork and time that you have given me in this matter. 

Best Regards,

goodspeed
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
51 months ago
STD and STI mean exactly the same thing. Some experts prefer one or the other term, that's all.

That some STDs are transmitted by skin-to-skin contact doesn't mean that any skin contact is sufficient. With few if any exceptions, it must be intimate and intense, and it generally means genital to genital skin (or oral to genital), not contact with hands, breasts, or skin elsewhere on the body.

It doesn't matter now you spin this with "what if", "did you really mean", or "could it somehow ever be possible" sorts of scenarios. No matter what you think of, the answer will be the same. No intercourse, no STD risk. Suck it up, believe it, and move on.

That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question, and so ends this thread. Please do not start a new one with the same or similar questions. Repetative, anxiety driven questions are against forum policy. Thanks.

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