[Question #10957] HSV1/2 and shingles

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18 months ago
Hi! So here's my situation:

Generally very worried/obsessive about HSV. Tend to run to the dermatologist at slightest notice, and also regularly get HSV1/2 IgG blood test (which I know is no longer CDC rec w/o symptoms).

Went to derm today with some skin irritation/pain in lower back. He pretty definitively confirmed it looked like shingles, *not* HSV1/2. (I asked him about 500 times, and I trust this derm). Regardless, I asked him to do a swab/culture for HSV1/2 on the area.

So my questions:
1. Derm said there wasn't a chance of a false positive HSV1/2 on. the swab if what I'm dealing with is indeed shingles/zoster. True?

2. I was just about to get the HSV1/2 IgG test again for peace of mind. If I am indeed having a shingles-related issue, would this at all throw off the IgG results for HSV1/2, or no worries there? (My assumption is that I've had the zoster virus since childhood, so it's been in my system all the other times I've gotten the HSV IgG test, all negative.)

I realize the Western Blot is gold standard, etc, but for sake of my own anxiety I would rather not start expanding out into additional tests right at this moment :)

Thanks!

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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
18 months ago
I think it can be difficult to sort out shingles from HSV 2 by visual presentation.  The swab test, if the test was ordered correctly, could have looked for both. The possibility of false positives for HSV on swab tests is incredibly low.
Shingles would not impact HSV testing, no.  But I'm glad you are aware of the possibility for false positives on the IgG HSV 2 test.

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18 months ago
Thanks Terri.
I realize they can present similarly but he did seem quite confident based on specific presentation and he also spelled out specific reasons he thought this was def shingles and not hsv2 based on appearance location and so on. 

Re false positives on hsv2 igg...I have had this test done prob 6 or 7 times in my life. Always unequivocally negative. Given this would it be less likely that I'd suddenly experience a false positive?



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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
18 months ago
Yes, I think it is less likely, with a history of completely negative IgG tests, that there will be a false positive

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18 months ago
Thanks Terri.
My issue is that I have severe OCD and just trying to avoid panicking for 4 months until I can more or less trust IgG results. 
Realize visual ID can be tough bit I'm hoping that the docs confidence in it being shingles plus a hopefully negative HSV1/2 swab will be enough to relax a bit :)
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
18 months ago
I hope so too.  Why are you waiting 4 months for an IgG test?  8-10 weeks is about as good as those get, compared to the blot
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18 months ago
Or 8 to 10 weeks then ;).
Beating a dead horse here, but based on dermatologist confidence that it presented as shingles not HSV, and location (lower back only, and only on one side of body), might not the location also suggest shingles? (No history of receptive anal sex for me).


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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
18 months ago
Genital herpes can show up anywhere in the boxer shorts area.  From your description, I can't tell if the "lower back" is in that area or not.

Terri
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