[Question #10977] Syphillis Concern

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18 months ago
Hi,
Two weeks ago I had a sexual encounter with a male I had been with once before. He’s an older professional and told me he is on Prep and is tested every three months as part of taking Prep. We only engaged in oral sex and mutual masturbation. This was the first time I’ve performed oral on a man. I performed oral on him for a few minutes and then we both masturbated to completion. A few days ago I noticed a small, irritated bump on my tongue (very small). I believe I recall accidentally biting my tongue during eating, and I’m wondering if it’s just a result of that. It by no means looks like a cancre I’ve seen online. Nor did I see anything on my partner’s penis that looked like a cancre at all, and I think I would have noticed — he was shaved and looked perfectly clean. I’m married and obviously don’t want to accidentally pass anything to my wife, so I just wanted to get your opinion. I’m of the opinion that is probably nothing, but just wanted to see what you think. I do believe my partner is very careful. Thanks!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
18 months ago
Welcome back, but I'm not sure I can help very much. One or more of your three previous threads discussed the absence of HIV risk from the sorts of sexual events you describe here. As for performing oral sex on a male partner, even if he had HIV, the average risk for penile to oral HIV transmission has been estimated at one in 10,000. That's equivalent to giving BJs to infected men once daily for 27 years before infection might be likely. And you describe a partner who almost certainly isn't infected anyway. And your tongue bump doesn't sound like anything significant, and certainly not likely to be a chancre.

In other words, I can confirm your own judgments:  there was no significant risk of syphilis or HIV, or any other STI, from the exposure described. In the future, you can expect similar responses on your risk from sex with other men, until you move to significantly risk exposures -- i.e. anal sex. Without anal sex, you will not likely to be at risk of HIV, syphilis, or any other STI from sex with men. I encourage you to continue to discuss STI/HIV status with prospective partners, but so far you haven't been at risk at all. In the future, it should be necessary to ask us about each and every such contact you have.

I hope these commetns are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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18 months ago
In the future, I promise I won’t bother you again unless there is a serious, significant reason to. I have learned so much from this site — I truly appreciate the work you do.

Since I have the opportunity to ask follow up questions., I’ll do so and then let you get on with more important work. First, I would guess that a chancre would be easy to recognize, correct? Like it would most likely be obvious that it was something out of the ordinary (not suggesting my little bump of the tongue is at all), correct?

How likely is it to contract syphillis from receptive oral sex? Again, just asking to gain a little knowledge about syphillis and how it can be contracted. Again, I would guess that if there wasn’t the presence of a visible sore, syphillis would not be on the table.

Again, thanks, and I promise not to bother you with further questions or follow ups. I definitely understand where you are coming from!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
18 months ago
Yes, chancres are easy to recognize and do not appear as a "bump" on the tongue or anywhere else.. They never clear up within a few days either. Certainly syphilis can be and not infrequently is acquired by oral sex.

Your several comments, both in your earlier threads and this one, overemphasize symptoms. Presence or absence of visible lesions in a partner is rarely helpful in predicting STI risk. In addition, anxious person tend to be overly sensitive to minor body sensations, aches, pains, and everyday skin lesions which for the most part are meaningless. Rather than looking for or worrying about symptoms, it's much more effective to choose partners with care, pursue safe sex practices, and if at significant risk, get tested. Do not rely on symptoms either to predict risk or, for minor symptoms in yourself, to judge whether or not you are infected.
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18 months ago
Thanks. I reached back out to my partner, who assured me that he was STI free. I apologize for the questions, and this will be my last one as I have decided to no longer pursue this lifestyle. I told you that this bump on my tongue appeared about 10 days after my encounter. Typically, that would be too soon for a syphillis chancre to appear. It’s also a little sore, and I’ve read that a chancre is usually painless. Like I said, I recall possibly biting my tongue during eating around that time, so maybe this is just the site where I bit my tongue. Finally, what exactly would a chancre look like? Would it be obvious that something looked out of the ordinary? Thanks!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
18 months ago
You're still overly focused on your tongue lesion. As for what chancres look like, you can easily find images online. Try googling something like "chancre image", "syphilis photos", etc.

That completes the two follow-ups included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Please note the forum policy against repeated questions on the same topic. This should be your last about such low risk sorts of sexual exposures. Thanks for your understanding. Best wishes and stay safe.
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