[Question #11521] Small Cut Vagina Fingering HIV Risk
13 months ago
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I am Male 42, first time in life on April 1st nothing before and after, I did Vagina fingering for 2-3 mins only, realized having a small cut on finger after 24 hours (Image attached). Did mistake of reading content on Quora . I read it my have low risk, but from yesterday thinking what if that girl has semen in vagina from other HIV infected person, is that increases risk? Having sleepless nights and anxiety from April 1st.
4th Gen AG/AB negative after 19, 39, 49, 71 & 79 days.
Recently Reading people testing negative and having symptoms like white tongue, weight loss and possibility of HIV infected semen from other men in vagina increasing my anxiety. I am using anxiety medicine from last 11 days it was helping but recent questions creating lots of turbulence. I am analytical person and overthinking can you please explain the risk in detail, thank you!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
13 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. I'm happy to address these concerns.
There has never been a proved case of HIV transmission through fingering, despite billions of such exposure, of which millions undoubtedly occurred in the presences of nicks or custom the fingers. This is among several kinds of exposure listed in various resources that sound plausible but in fact occur rarely if ever. This doesn't mean the risk is truly zero, but it's obviously very low. Nobody should ever read lists of potentially risky exposures that occur rarely if ever in the real world. Had you asked me ahead of time, I would advised that you did not HIV testing at all.
And once you did test, you went overboard. The negative result at 39 days was almost certainly conclusive, and the 49 days result definitely was. The last two were a waste of money, time and perhaps emotional energy.
As for symptoms, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have HIV and test negative -- no matter when testing is done. The window period to test is relevant ONLY when there are NO symptoms. If there ARE symptoms, any negative result proves the symptoms are not due o HIV. This is because it is not HIV itself that causes symptoms, but the immune response to the virus -- and immune response shows up as antibody. Nobody in the world ever has HIV symptoms at tests negative.
And on top of all that, the chance a partner like your has HIV is very low; and the possibility of exposure to another person's semen in her vagina is lower still.
So all is well. You do not have HIV. Stop testing and stop worrying.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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13 months ago
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Do yo able to see the image it is cut may be because of dryness. The incident happened in Vegas Casino at 2 AM in the morning the girl does not appeared to be professional but can not rule that out. I agree the possibility like that is rare just assuming the semen is present in vagina and does it increases the chance of risk and how much I will request for fair and honest assessment. I think I had overthink plus analytical mind and had deep impact and with some clinical explanation I may able to feel better. I took three test as the probability of error was 0.7% on Quest Diagnostic eventually the same person getting the false result is more than 2M that is basically even if all positive people in USA take three tests no one will test negative. I will request some clinical explanation that might help me.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
13 months ago
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Sorry, but we do not accept or look at posted clinical photos. It comes too close to diagnosing problems which we cannot do. And it doesn't matter what a finger wound looks like; it makes no significant difference in risk. And since your test results PROVE you do not have HIV, your risk at the time of exposure is irrelevant. You could have told me you mainlined known HIV infected blood; I would still advise you were not infected.
Perhaps it will also help you to know that in the 20 years of this and our preceding forum at MedHelp, with thousands of questions from persons worried about a possible HIV exposure, nobody has yet turned out to be infected. You will not be the first. If and when it finally happens, surely it will be from a genuinely high risk exposure (think unprotected anal sex between men) and not from a a trivial exposure like yours.
Do your best to move on without giving this event another thought!
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13 months ago
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Thank you sir, basically do you mean the Semen has less virus than blood and even blood is there the risk is low, that is why you provided the relative comparison. Just now I observed my bottom part of tooth being whitish and sharp I had recent change of toothpaste for 2 weeks could that be it or in anyway it could be HIV symptom?
I appreciate you time but hope you understand overthinking made my mind fragile, I answered lot many questions to myself and had piece these are some remaining as of now :-)
13 months ago
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My Analytical mind may pacify if you provide risk possibility increase contacting semen vs vaginal fluid with the cut finger during vagina fingering. Now when I read it your comment I guess you are explaining the test results overrides the incident. I am knowing that but having difficult accepting it hence just trying to understand is there a difference of risk between contacting semen vs vaginal fluid with the cut finger during vagina fingering.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
13 months ago
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I said nothing about the amount of virus in semen versus blood. They're about the same.
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As for your new symptoms, you must have completely misunderstood the main points of my reply above. It is not possible to have HIV and a negative blood test at the same time. Your negative tests mean that any symptoms you have now or develop any time in the future cannot be caused by HIV from the exposure last April. Why is this so hard to understand??
And another repeat from above: Therefore the amount of risk at the time of the exposure does not matter!
That you "are having difficulty accepting" all this is your problem, not mine. Please do not ask again!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
13 months ago
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That completes the two follow-up Q&As included with each original question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful.---