[Question #11878] Gonore and hiv
11 months ago
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25 Temmuz ve 1 Ağustos'ta bir seks işçisiyle şüpheli bir karşılaşma yaşadım. Korunmasız oral seks ve korunaklı vajinal seks yaptım. 3 Ağustos'ta penisimden akıntı olduğunu fark ettim. 5 Ağustos'ta özel bir laboratuvarda STD10 testi yaptırdım ve negatif çıktı. Semptomlarımı (idrar yaparken yanma, penis akıntısı, anal kaşıntı) bir üroloğa anlattıktan sonra bana bel soğukluğu teşhisi kondu ve tek doz Novosef enjeksiyonu ve bir kür Tetradox antibiyotik tedavisi gördüm. Enjeksiyondan sonra penisimden gelen akıntı durdu, ancak ara sıra idrar yaparken yanma hissi yaşıyorum ve penisimden akıntı olmamasına rağmen akıntı varmış gibi hissediyorum.
Tedavi eksik olabilir mi ve bu konuda ne yapmalıyım? Ayrıca, HIV testlerimle ilgili olarak:
10 Ağustos'ta (ilk karşılaşmadan 16 gün sonra ve ikinci karşılaşmadan 10 gün sonra) RNA PCR testim negatif çıktı.
22 Ağustos'ta (ilk karşılaşmadan 28 gün sonra ve ikinci karşılaşmadan 22 gün sonra) HIV Duo Ultra testim negatif çıktı.
29 Ağustos'ta (ilk karşılaşmadan 35 gün sonra ve ikinci karşılaşmadan 29 gün sonra) Vidas HIV Duo Ultra testim negatif çıktı.
Başka bir HIV testi yaptırmam gerekir mi ve gerekiyorsa ne zaman yaptırmalıyım?
Şimdiden teşekkür ederim, Doktor.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
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Greetings. I will be happy to address your question if you will translate it into English and re-post it in the follow-up window below. Thank you.
HHH, MD
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11 months ago
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I had a suspicious encounter with a sex worker on July 25th and August 1st. I had unprotected oral sex and protected vaginal sex. On August 3rd, I noticed discharge from my penis. I took an STD10 test at a private lab on August 5th, which came back negative. After describing my symptoms (burning during urination, penile discharge, anal itching) to a urologist, I was given a diagnosis of gonorrhea and treated with a single dose of Novosef injection and a course of Tetradox antibiotics. After the injection, the discharge from my penis stopped, but I still occasionally experience a burning sensation during urination and feel like there's discharge from my penis even though there is none.
Could the treatment be incomplete, and what should I do about this? Additionally, regarding my HIV tests:
On August 10th (16 days after the first encounter and 10 days after the second encounter), my RNA PCR test was negative.
On August 22nd (28 days after the first encounter and 22 days after the second encounter), my HIV Duo Ultra test was negative.
On August 29th (35 days after the first encounter and 29 days after the second encounter), my Vidas HIV Duo Ultra test was negative.
Do I need to have another HIV test, and if so, when should I have it?
Thank you in advance, Doctor.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
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Welcome to the forum.
Your symptoms certainly fit with gonorrhea. However, presumably the "STD10" test was a panel of several STD tests, right? If it included urine or urethral swab testing for gonorrhea, that negative result is reliable and shows you almost certainly didn't have it. However, if it was a gonorrhea blood test, it is meaningless: that test is worthless. If not gonorrhea, you could have had nongonococcal urethritis (NGU), which can be caused by normal oral bacteria that are not detected by STD testing. Interesting that you were treated with Novsef®, generic name cefotaxime. It is not a recommended antibiotic for gonorrhea, although it likely would be effective: do you know if it is commonly used in your country? The doxycycline (Tetradox®) is a standard treatment everywhere and usually effective against NGU (and chlamydia, although that's unlikely). You can expect the discomfort in your penis to continue to improve.
As for HIV, this was low risk even if you did acquire gonorrhea. There has never been a proved case of HIV transmitted mouth to penis; and of course condoms are highly protective during vaginal intercourse. In any case, the combination of your various HIV tests is conclusive -- i.e. negative RNA/PCR 10-16 days plus negative AgAb ("Duo") blood test at 29-35 days. You definitely do not have HIV and do not need any more HIV tests.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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11 months ago
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Doctor, first of all, thank you for the information you provided. I had an STD10 test done as a urine test. Two urology doctors I consulted in the country where I am currently located recommended Novosef injection treatment. What treatment would you apply? After the injection, the discharge from my penis stopped the next day. However, I still have ongoing burning during urination, occasional itching in the anal area, and a sensation of discharge from the penis (though there is no visible discharge). Do you think it is necessary to check the prostate fluid and apply another treatment, or should I wait a bit longer to see if the issues resolve on their own (it has been 20 days since the treatment ended)? Two days ago, I visited a doctor due to pain in the lower right abdomen, and I had blood and urine tests done. The CRP value in my blood test was 11.58, and RBC was observed in my urine. The doctor said it was due to kidney stones. Is this condition related to gonorrhea or could it be a coincidence?
Secondly, if I had gonorrhea, could it have been transmitted through unprotected oral sex? I used protection during vaginal intercourse, and there was no condom rupture.
Regarding HIV, you mentioned that my test results were conclusive. I just want to confirm whether I should retake the test at 42 days or 90 days.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
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Still a bit of confusion: Your symptoms were typical for gonorrhea, as was the quick onset of your symptoms (2 days after the second contact) and the fast improvement after the antibiotic injection. And yet you say the urine test was negative for gonorrhea? Probably the test was falsely negative and your doctor's diagnosis correct. And yes, you caught it from the oral sex exposure: gonorrhea is the most common STD transmitted oral to penis. You should contact the sex worker to be sure she is aware she probably has oral gonorrhea and needs treatment.
Interesting that cefotaxime (Novosef®) is advised in your country (Turkey?). The main world-wide recommendation is ceftriaxone, but cefotaxime is a similar antibiotic and clearly was effective in your treatment.
I agree that the combination of abdominal pain plus blood in your urine could be caused by a kidney stone. I have no comment about your CRP. Keep working with your doctor, ideally a urologist.
Indeed your current HIV tests are conclusive. You will have to decide whether to follow your doctor's advice about future testing.
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11 months ago
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Doctor, independently of my other questions, I woke up today with a unilateral sore throat and possibly swollen lymph nodes in that area—I’m not entirely sure. My face and eye are also a bit swollen, and I have some ear pain. I will see an ENT specialist tomorrow, but suddenly I’m feeling anxious again. It has been 33 and 39 days since my possible exposures, and I don’t think it’s related to HIV, but I’m worried and confused. I know that acute HIV symptoms would not appear given the elapsed time, but could HIV have weakened my immune system and caused swelling in the lymph nodes or a throat infection?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
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"I know that acute HIV symptoms would not appear given the elapsed time": Correct. And HIV immune suppression never includes suppressing positive tests for the virus.
Seeing an ENT specialist for these symptoms doesn't seem necessary. You undoubtedly have a minor cold or other virus and the symptoms will clear up soon. An ENT doc won't be able to speed that up. Consider seeing ENT only if your symptoms persist a week or two, or if you develop high fiver.
That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful.
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