[Question #11995] Concerns About HPV and Past Relationships

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11 months ago

Hello Dr. Handsfield,

Previously, you mentioned that I did not contract HPV from the suspicious encounter I had 14 months ago and that the tests were negative. During this time, I researched a lot about HPV, and it made me quite scared. However, something I hadn’t considered happened, and you reminded me of my relationships from 14 years ago. Back then, I had 6 condom-protected encounters with sex workers in Amsterdam, and I have never had unprotected sex. You mentioned that my wife is at risk due to these past encounters. This triggered fears that I had never thought of before.

I have been married for 10 years now, and neither my wife nor I have had any warts. This year, my wife had two HPV and smear tests, and both were negative. Also, her colposcopy examination was clear.

Your statement, "Your wife is at risk due to your past relationships," scared me a lot. Therefore, I would like you to explain the situation in more detail and provide more information on this matter. Do you think this poses a future risk for my wife?

Thank you.

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
I'm sorry to see you back. It took a while to find your previous threads because you have used at least two different accounts and usernames. Now I find 5 threads, all with similar questions. My reply to this one will be brief.

I haven't read all of the others in detail, but I doubt I told you that you did not acquire HPV during any particular "suspicious" encounter. If I said you could not have acquired HPV, probably the encounter wasn't actually "suspicious".

And I really don't understand why you are "scared" because of my statement about your wife. Since you had several past sex partners, almost certainly you were infected with HPV, perhaps more than once; and many (most? all?) HPV infections can reactivate and be transmitted. Therefore, there is some chance your wife has been infected by you and someday could have an abnormal Pap smear or other manifestation of genital HPV (like genital warts). This is why all women must have periodic Pap smears, regardless of their sexual histories. This is true of almost all sexually active people. Don't get me wrong:  the chance of this is low, but it isn't zero. (Reactivation of old HPV is the main cause of abnormal Pap smears in women over age 30 -- not newly acquired infection.) That's all I meant by that comment:  almost all women are at some risk on account of their own or their partners' past sex lives. Your wife is no different.

As I think was discussed in most or all your previous threads, the only health problem in evidence is your abnormal fear of and obsession with HPV. Try to gain the proper perspective:  genital HPV is a normal, expected, unavoidable consequence of human sexuality. Happily, the large majority of infections never cause symptoms or otherwise become apparent.

HHH, MD


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11 months ago

Dr. Handsfield, thank you for your response.


14 years ago, my past relationships were with sex workers in the Netherlands' "Red Light" district, who are under state control and regularly tested for sexually transmitted infections. During this time, I had intercourse with 6 different women, and I always used condoms in all of my encounters. Since these workers are under government supervision, I believe their health status was monitored and they were negative for infections.


Additionally, 45 days after the suspicious encounter I had 13 months ago, the person involved underwent both HPV DNA and smear tests, and both results were negative. I still have no symptoms of warts and understand that the incubation periods are typically 3-8 months

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11 months ago

In my research, I found that most people show wart symptoms or test positive for HPV within 3, 6, 9, or 12 months after exposure. It is extremely rare for an HPV infection to appear years later. Generally, HPV cases are evaluated based on the patient's sexual history and testing. In married couples, it is often assumed that one partner's infidelity and concealment of the truth lead to the infection appearing years later, and doctors thus suggest it could be possible for the virus to emerge after a long period. However, there is no conclusive evidence or experiment proving this. I know from the literature that the latent (dormant) rate of HPV is about 3%, which makes me believe that HPV is a very complex issue.


My fear and anxiety stem from the possibility that, even though my wife is currently negative, she might test positive in the future and suffer severe health consequences because of me.


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11 months ago

I have come to understand that I shouldn’t ask whether I’ve contracted HPV. Because even if the escort woman's test results are negative, the risk of HPV transmission always seems to exist. This leads to the conclusion that testing devices are not completely reliable. When I say "not reliable," I mean this: For example, if there is a suspicion of HIV and concerns arise, getting an HIV test and receiving a negative result closes the matter, and this result remains valid in the future. However, the negative results of HPV tests are only valid for the day they are conducted and are specific to that day. Even if someone hasn’t had any sexual relations, there’s still a possibility of testing positive for HPV years later. This situation is rare, but how rare?

I am very worried that I will be positive in the future with my spouse; this causes me anxiety.

But when I read your writing, it seems you view this like a flu illness. However, women have died from cancer related to this disease; and although rare, men also face cancer deaths due to it.

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11 months ago
My wife’s first man in her life is me, and she has had a sexual relationship with me. If she gets cancer, the reason will be me, and I won’t be able to bear it; it would hurt a lot."
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
11 months ago
Wow. You're really into the weeds on this. And so much of what you think you understand is wrong.

Through several Dutch colleagues and friends, I am familiar with STI programs there. I'm not sure if Amsterdam RL district sex workers currently are monitored for HPV infection, but certainly that was not the case 14 years ago. Anyway, you are correct that "even if...test results are negative, the risk of HPV transmission always seems to exist." Therefore, that one particular "suspicious" partner a year ago tested negative also is meaningless in terms of your HPV risk. And it is just plain wrong that "this situation is rare". It's quite common.

It also is completely wrong that "most people show wart symptoms or test positive for HPV within 3, 6, 9, or 12 months after exposure." The large majority of HPV infections never cause warts, abnormal Pap smears, or other visible abnormalities. (Among those who acquire the main wart-causing types (HPV 6 and 11), around 50% develop visible warts in the next 6-12 months.) The notion that only 3% of HPV infections are latent or dormant is nonsense. Some experts believe it occurs 100% of the time, but certainly it is very common.

Do not deign to lecture us on the clinical importance of HPV infection. We have never described it as "flu like", and we are intimately aware of the risks, hence our universal and frequent emphasis on immunization and on Pap smears for women. Through these programs, the frequency of HPV related cancers is in fact very low. That's not to say the risk can be ignored. All in all, HPV related cancers are small in number compared with many others (like prostate, breast, colon, and so on).

That concludes this thread. Please note the forum policy on repeated questions, especially when anxiety driven or argumentative. This being your third, it will have to be your last. Further ones will be deleted without reply and without refund of the posting fee. This policy is based on compassion, not criticism, and is intended to reduce the temptation to keep asking questions with obvious answers. In addition, repeated replies to "yes but" or "could I be the exception" sorts of concerns often tends to prolong anxiety rather than helping it. Finally, such questions have reduced educational value for other users, one of the forum's main goals. Thank you for your understanding. I do hope the several discussions help you put HPV in perspective and contribute to a more realistic understanding of the virus and its consequences.
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