[Question #12065] Testing
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10 months ago
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On July, 27, 2024 I went to a Asian Massage Parlor. Myself and a female engaged in mutual masturbation. She gave me a hand job and I fingered her. No intercourse of any kind. I took an Oraquick HIV test at day 44, negative. i took another Oraquick at day 54, Negative. I took another Oraquick at day 61 Negative. I took another Oraquick at day 69, Negative. I understand that 69 days is not 10 weeks but I assumed it's close enough. From reading I also see that Oraquick is your least favorite test. My personality is such that I would rather get bad news if any this way versus someone telling me. I know the act of mutual masturbation is safe sex with no risk of HIV. In your professional opinion can I take the 69 day as conclusive? I did call Oraquick and verify that I was doing the test properly. Can I quit testing or continue to 90 day. I don't go to these places often anymore but if I go again do I need to test continually or abstain from sex with my wife if only massage parlor is hand job and fingering. Thank you for your advice on testing
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
10 months ago
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I'm sorry you're back with more repeated questions about zero risk events that have been answered previously. Did you forget the advice in your previous threads? Or not understand it??
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It is clear that you are abnormally obsessed with risks of blood borne infections. If these thoughts are impacting your life as much as I believe, you should consider professional counseling. In any case, simply hearing the same facts again and again never solves this sort of problem. Therefore, this will have to be your last forum question about such things as massage, hand-genital contact, fingering, and your worries about viral hepatitis (all kinds) and HIV from such events.
The events described here were zero risk or any blood borne or HIV infection. You did not need HIV testing. You should never have stopped having unprotected sex with your wife and certainly can resume it now.
The oral fluids test (Oraquick) is the least useful of all HIV tests. It never becomes positive in up to 2% to 5% of people with HIV, no matter how long they wait. Another test at 90 days (or longer) would also be negative. Since you were at zero risk, you still can consider all your negative tests as reliable. But if someday you would like a truly conclusive test, have a lab based antigen-antibody (AgAb, 4th generation) blood test any time 45 days or more after the last exposure that concerns you.
Let me know if anything isn't clear. But do not ask anything that has been answered previously -- OK?
HHH, MD
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10 months ago
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Good evening, first thank you for the response. I did have a 4 th Generation HIV Test as you advised and it was negative as you said. I will not deny you are correct about the obsession. I will work on accepting the NAAT is conclusive as a false positive,and not a cleared infection. The two dates almost make it impossible for it to be a cleared infection vs false positive. My original question was really about oraquick and you answered that, thank you. I didn't realize they were that faulty for lack of better word. I will not ask about this situation again
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
10 months ago
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I'm glad you have the 4th gen test. Good show -- but you really shouldn't need to "work own" accepting that the NAAT was falsely positive. The science on this is clear! Please do your best to move on without further worry. Good luck with it.
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