[Question #12119] Concerned
10 months ago
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I engaged in protected vaginal and oral with a CSW a 72 hours ago. Started PEP at hour 62 out of an abundance of caution. What are the testing windows after Pep is complete. Also, what would happen if I stop PEp? Does that change the window? Trying to stay mellow as I am married and made a terrible decision. Thanks for y’all you do.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
10 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question and your confidence in our services.
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I'll answer your questions, but here is what I would consider my most important advice: Had you asked before starting, I would have strongly recommended against anti-HIV PEP in this situation. Given the likelihood any female CSW is likely to have HIV, the transmission risk with unprotected sex, and the effectiveness of condoms, the likelihood you would have acquired HIV is well under one chance in many million. By taking PEP, you will not know for sure if you acquired HIV until at least 6 weeks from now (about 2 weeks after your last PEP dose); and some experts advise waiting even longer. Without PEP you would be able to know 11 days after the event -- now that you've probably taken a couple of doses, perhaps about 2 weeks. Are you willing and conformable not having sex with your wife for nearly two months? And telling her why?
There are no precise data on time to reliable testing after PEP. As indicated above, without it an HIV RNA PCR test would be conclusive 11 days after exposure. Assuming you complete 4 weeks treatment, the earliest possible testing is 11 days after your last dose -- but most experts believe it could take longer and probably would advise a minimum of 2 weeks after the last dose. Even with that negative result, many would advise additional testing over the next 2-4 weeks, with repeat RNA PCR or (our preference) an AgAb (4th generation) blood test 4-6 weeks after the last dose.
Probably just a day or two of PEP would make little difference -- as noted above, an RNA/PCR would probably be conclusive in about 2 weeks.
Another option is to contact your CSW partner, if you are able to, and offer to pay for her to have a new HIV test. If negative, you could stop PEP and not even worry about testing for HIV.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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10 months ago
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Thank you Dr for your reply and value your advice. Why is it not recommended to go on PEP just to be extra precautious? I’d rather be safe than sorry. I did speak to the CSW and she maintains she’s clean but there was a language barrier. The event occurred this past Saturday so I’m unsure if she’s had other high risk events since then….
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
10 months ago
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PEP drugs are not entirely free of side effects. Dangerous and even fatal ones probably are more common than your risk of HIV was. The reasons I gave about delayed confirmation of HIV status in your situation also is important to many people. PEP is usually limited to people with genuinely high risk exposures, and yours definitely was not.
If your CSW partner tests negative, you have no worries, even if she were exposed recently. Recently exposed persons whose HIV tests are not yet positive cannot transmit the virus.
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I am not advising you to stop PEP based only on my advice. We do not prescribe (or un-prescribe) drugs or otherwise provide medical treatment. This is something for you to consider discussing with whoever prescribed PEP or your personal physician.
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10 months ago
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Thank you Dr and I know this is my last follow up. If you had found yourself in my situation, what would you have done and do? The facts are that I was protected and that I was not at risk. I will make another attempt to see if the CSW will get tested and I’ll probably cease PEP today. Thanks
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
10 months ago
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If somehow I were in your situation, I would not even be tested for HIV and I certainly would not have started PEP. If for some reason I had started PEP (e.g. if I was uncoscious or seriously drunk and a doctor started me on PEP without my agreement or knowledge), I would stop it immediately.
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Do discuss stopping with PEP with your own doctor before you make a final decision.
That concludes this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful.
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