[Question #12235] Hsv risks?

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9 months ago

Hello I have a few questions about two encounters that I had in the past 3 weeks. Both of the encounters were with males and the other was with a cross dresser also male. The first encounter was about 3 weeks ago and it only involved receptive unprotected oral sex with ejaculation inside of the mouth, and they also sucked and licked my balls. The second which was only a few days after, involved mutual oral, deep make out and I used protection anal as a “top”. Both of these partners I have had multiple hook ups in the past 3 years. The first one always involves just oral, as I am terrified of Hiv. The second usually involves the same, mutual unprotected on penis, protected anal, and make out . This individual takes prep , I have even seen the pills myself, so I am not as worried to perform protected sex. And with both have never experienced anything unsual until the final encounters , both were only a few days apart, and within a few 10 days to a week the symptoms started . So about three days ago I started feeling some discomfort/pain while peeing . It only lasted that day. Within the next 3 days I started getting some foot pains, lower back pain, and the weirdest one that has me worried is some buttocks pain, seemed very odd to me, even though I do work a physical job, I have felt some lower back pain, and foot pains sometimes, but never the buttocks. 

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9 months ago

Now 6 or 5 days ago, this is where I really started freaking out, I have started to feel for a few days , what seems like literally a crawling/ tingling type of sensation on my penis, and at some points it feels like some slight throbbing pains. Felt it a good amount come and go a bit, for about 3,4 days, and maybe even until yesterday. Two days ago and a bit yesterday I started also getting some slight discomfort while peeing, and I seem to feel some slight twitch like things, around my legs on upper part , and sometimes on my buttocks. And I have felt a bitch of the tingling type of feeling , which little burst of like a burn/ pain, just discomfort, it almost seems like it is through the urethra hole, just extremely difficult to explain. These little twitches seem off. I have had some slight So far I have had all of these for about 10 days. Before these encounters I was actually tested a month and a half ago, and all tests were negative, the only test I didn’t do was the herpes igg. My doctor did not recommend it. I used to have really horrible herpes and hiv scared years ago. So I am one to check alot for symptoms. And haven’t had a herpes scare in years. So I say that to say I check symptoms alot, and these seem extremely weird, and I have never felt anything like this. Also I am not sure if I have ever had any cold sores on my lips. 

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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
9 months ago
Without any lesions (you don't describe any) I doubt that this is due to herpes.  It sounds from your description that there is very little if any risk of HSV 2 from genital contact.  It is possible to acquire HSV 1 from receiving oral sex.  have you ever in your life had a cold sore on your lip or in your nose?  If the answer is yes, then there is very little risk of you acquiring that same virus genitally.

Your clinician probably recommended not testing for HSV due to the high risk of false positives.  However, you could to the test and if positive, anticipate the need to confirm with the western blot, the definitive test for HSV antibody.

But nothing here makes me worried about herpes.  The sensations that you are having could come from other things, for sure.

Terri
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9 months ago
Terri I was most terrified of hsv2 , but now that you ask, and I read stuff online, I honestly am not sure if I have ever received a cold sore on my lips. And that is making me super terrified. In my life I have probably made out with about 20 people, and received oral sex from about the same or more. The tingling feeling and pain was the most worry, and now past two days have even felt a burning type of feeling,1) could I have received Hsv1 from these events them if I had never received a cold sore before? 2) does this not sound like herpes symptoms or prodome to you? 3) how long after prodome should blisters develop? 4) i read on your handbook something about “aborted outbreak” what exactly is that? Could I be experiencing that? 5) how risky is protected anal sex with no breakage for both hsv1 and 2? 6) on the second encounter I also did deep make out with the person before receiving the oral. Wouldn’t the hsv1 most likely have gone orally instead, or is that a luck thing in that situation ?
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7) everywhere says including yourself , that you can develop outbreaks  even without blisters? What is the chances I am experiencing that? 
8) how often does the blisters show up as only one instead of multiple in your experience? 
9) so you recommend me getting a herpes blood teSt? 
10) if I never had a cold sore on lips, what are the chances I got hsv1 from these two encounters or hsv2? 
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11) what would be the difference in getting hsv1 or 2 genetially? Wouldn’t it be the same thing?  Or can you explain the key differences. I am seeing a few things online saying that you wouldn’t want neither, but if you have hsv1 down there it is a little better, just want to know the main difference 
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Terri Warren, RN, Nurse Practitioner
9 months ago
1) could I have received Hsv1 from these events them if I had never received a cold sore before?
That is possible yes, but without lesions, unlikely

 2) does this not sound like herpes symptoms or prodome to you? 
It does not, it is lasting too long.

3) how long after prodome should blisters develop? 
Usually within a few days

4) i read on your handbook something about “aborted outbreak” what exactly is that? Could I be experiencing that? 
An aborted outbreak is an outbreak that starts to come and for one reason or another, doesn't acutally make blisters

 5) how risky is protected anal sex with no breakage for both hsv1 and 2? 
Not very risky at all.

6) on the second encounter I also did deep make out with the person before receiving the oral. Wouldn’t the hsv1 most likely have gone orally instead, or is that a luck thing in that situation ?
People who acquire HSV 1 can get it orally, genitally or both locations - it varies by each encounter and person.

7) everywhere says including yourself , that you can develop outbreaks  even without blisters? What is the chances I am experiencing that? 
You've read that incorrectly - a person can develop antibody from being infected without developing blisters.  I don' t know if that is you or not.

8) how often does the blisters show up as only one instead of multiple in your experience? 
Usually with a new infection there is more than one blister.

9) so you recommend me getting a herpes blood teSt? 
Not at this point, but you could get a western blot when you are 12 weeks away from the encounter.  

10) if I never had a cold sore on lips, what are the chances I got hsv1 from these two encounters or hsv2? 
We don't have any numbers on that risk, sorry

11) what would be the difference in getting hsv1 or 2 genetially? Wouldn’t it be the same thing?  Or can you explain the key differences. I am seeing a few things online saying that you wouldn’t want neither, but if you have hsv1 down there it is a little better, just want to know the main difference 
The infections would look the same but HSV 1 would rarely recur or be shed from the body while HSV 2 would likely recur more often and shed more often

Terri
 




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