[Question #12267] Golden Shower at Massage Parlor

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9 months ago
Hello Experts,

I am a mostly healthy heterosexual male. Approximately 5 days ago I went to an Asian massage parlor.  I was offered a table shower so I said yes.  As I was laying on the table I asked her to urinate on me.  She agreed.

She first urinated on my chest and then some in my mouth.  I did not swallow and she game me mouthwash immediately after.  She did touch my penis some during the shower.  No other touching happened and there was no oral or penetrative sex.  

I left after this since I thought about the fact that some STIs can be detected in urine, but I wasn’t sure if they could be transmitted by urine as well.

What are my risks for contracting any STIs from this incident?

Can I resume sex with my partner?

Thank you
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
9 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your confidence in our services.

It is true that some STDs are detectable by urine testing, but that doesn't necessarily imply urine transmits them. Almost all STD tests on urine detect genetic material (nucleic acids, i.e. DNA or RNA) of the causative organisms (e.g. chlamydia, gonorrhea, trichomonas); as a group they are called nucleic acid amplification tests (NAAT). Live organisms may or may not be present, but in many cases urine actually suppresses their growth, and urine rarely transmits STDs. The actual risk of transmission by urine has never been formally studied, but all evidence indicates it is very rare. In my 50 years in the STD business, I have never encountered or heard about a case acquired through exposure to urine. Another factor concerns those STDs that can take hold in the oral cavity. For practical purposes, that's only gonorrhea:  chlamydia, trichomonas, and Mycoplasma genitalium rarely take hold in the oral cavity; and of course skin exposure is zero risk.

For those reasons, I would consider your golden shower event to carry little or no risk. If somehow I were in your situation, I would not feel a need to be tested and would continue unprotected sex with my wife without worry. However, I cannot guarantee the risk is zero, so you could consider testing. If you do so, I would advise only a throat swab for gonorrhea. (It will include chlamydia, since the two are almost always automatically done.) I see no need for any other testing of any kind.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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9 months ago
Thank you for your response Dr HHH.
I completely understand your assessment and that you cannot guarantee a zero-risk situation.
If I were to have gonorrhea how would that be transmitted to partner?  Oral sex?  Deep kissing?  Regular kissing?

Thank you,
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
8 months ago
Oral gonorrhea is not easily transmitted. Performing oral sex on a male partner would risk transmission. There is controversy about deep kissing -- the only cases reported are between men having sex with other men, in whom kissing often is more prolonged and vigorous than most events between males and females. There have been few if any cases ever known to be transmitted to women by cunnilingus. In addition, most cases of oral gonorrhea clear up without treatment within a few weeks.

Feel free to be tested if you like. If somehow I were in your situation, I wouldn't.
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8 months ago
Hello Dr HHH,

A day after I wrote my previous message to you I started having potential symptoms.   My tongue turned white and I had very noticeable throat discomfort (no pain however).   My sinuses were also bothering me as well, but of course the potential gonorrhea symptoms and considering the timing put doubt in my head with regards to not worrying so I decided that I should get tested with a throat swap.  I just knew for certain that I the result would be positive, but I just got my results today and the swab came back negative for both chlamydia and gonorrhea.

The doctor suggested that I take doxycycline and abstain from sexual activity for a week after finishing treatment because of the potential of false negatives, but I imagine you would suggest that I don't do that.

Thank you so much to you and your colleagues for the service that you all do on this site.  I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

I also want to say this to anyone that might read this post.  So many of us that use this site or have used this site clearly struggle with sex addiction and I am going to make a real effort to deal with this issue and not continue down the path that will only lead to me putting myself into more and more dangerous situations until I reach the point where there is no turning back.  I had gotten the occasional happy ending, but something inside me made me escalate my behavior to riskier situations.  This is my final wakeup call.  I won't be engaging in this type of behavior in the future.   I hope other sex addicts will join me.

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
8 months ago
No STD causes symptoms like this and certainly neither gonorrhea nor chlamydia does so; of course your throat swab was negative for both. Sounds like you caught a cold or similar rminor viral infection; your symptoms have nothing to do with the urine exposure or massage, unless you caught your cold from her. I strongly disagree with doxycycline. What does your doctor think she is treating??

That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Thanks for the thanks.
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