[Question #12281] STI concern
8 months ago
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65 days ago I had brief unprotected sex with a high-end (expensive) CSW that I had been meeting with for several months. It lasted about 2 minutes, at which point I stopped, washed off, and put on a condom in order to resume. We discussed it afterward. The CSW told me she had been tested within the previous 2 weeks and was negative. I have had no symptoms whatsoever, but I recently started seeing a woman and want to make sure I'm being completely safe before resuming unprotected sex with anyone. From what I read it seems like there's very little chance of gonorrhea, since there have been no symptoms. Syphilis seems pretty improbable. I'm less sure about chlamydia, which seems to very often exhibit no symptoms. I've read female to male transmission might range anywhere from 5% to 20%. Is testing necessary in this situation?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
8 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.
From your description, it is unlikely your CSW partner has active infection with any of the main STDs of concern (HIV, syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamydia). "High end" CSWs (escorts -- i.e. expensive, scheduled appointments, etc) tend to be health conscious, use condoms, get tested frequently, and generally have low risk clients (men like you). You correctly understand that your own absence of symptoms is strong evidence you do nt have gonorrhea; that syphilis is rare in this situation; and that chlamydia is at least unlikely. I'm not sure which STD you refer to with your transmission estimate risk of 5-20%, but of course that's only if your partner is infected herself. If there's say a 1% chance, then those figures calculate to your risk in the rage of .05% to .2% (one chance in 2,000 to 1 in 500 respectively).
Is testing "necessary"? That's your choice, not mine. Combining absence of symptoms and what you know about your partner, the likelihood you have any of these infections is under one chance in many thousand. But the very fact that you're concerned enough to come to the forum suggests you would be reassured -- more than my words can do -- by being tested with negative results. If so, you probably should go ahead with a urine test for gonorrhea and chlamydia and blood tests for HIV and syphilis. 65 days is plenty of time for conclusive results for all of them. You can expect negative results.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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8 months ago
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Thanks Doctor. I think that covers everything. The reference to 5% to 20% was the range of what I have seen described as the chance of transmission of chlamydia from female in a one off sexual encounter. I think the NYC STD Center's website says it's 4.5%, and I have seen as high as 20% elsewhere.
Thanks Again.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
8 months ago
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Thanks for clarifying. Those indeed are good estimates for chlamydia. Your risk is a lot lower than that, considering the low chance your CSW partner has it and your lack of symptoms. (That in itsself doesn't rule it out, but helps: probably around half to two thirds of men with urethral infection have symptoms.)
Thanks for the thanks. I'm glad to have helped.
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8 months ago
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Doctor Handsfield:
I opted to get tested. I submitted blood and urine at a local lab last Tuesday, November 26, and they sent it off for testing. Because of the holidays I didn't get the results until yesterday afternoon. I was very concerned about the amount of time that passed between collection and the date of the test 7 days later. I called the local collection place and they reassured me that it wasn't an issue at all. However, upon further inspection of my test result letter, I noticed that, according to the letter, my sample had been transported in a grey top tube. Based on what I'm gathering online, this was inappropriate for PCR testing for STIs. Does this completely invalidate my test results? I assume my blood tests are valid - they show HSV-1 only, which is what I would have expected. But do the negative results for gonorrhea and chlamydia have any validity at all?
8 months ago
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Just a brief follow up. After sending you the additional information below, I drove to the collection center where I submitted my blood and urine. The woman who collected my samples went over the result with me and assured me there was no way she could have put the urine into a grey top tube. She showed me the packet containing the vial and pipette that she uses to collect and submit urine samples for STI tests and explained her collection procedure to me. The vial comes with the pipette in the same package. Grey top tubes are much smaller and have a sort of rubber end that is injected into - she couldn't imagine even trying to put urine into a grey top tube. Indeed, she said she has never had an occasion to use a grey top tube in the 8 months she has worked there. They are going to call the lab in Washington to see if they can get an explanation for the reference to a grey top tube on my test result page. They think the lab may have a photo of the specimen as well.
I'm pretty convinced that she didn't send off my urine in a grey top tube. I just wonder what might have happened on the other end. Perhaps a clerical error when inputting the results. It seems doubtful that a reputable lab would even test the sample if it were submitted in a manner that is so obviously incorrect. Hopefully I'll get an explanation.
I know getting tested is stressful for everyone, but this is ridiculous.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
8 months ago
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You needn't have gone to all that trouble. I'm not a labatory expert, but I'm pretty sure that if a sample is in a container that actually would interfere with testing, the lab would have not run the test and would have contacted you to request a new specimen. I'm sur eyou can rely on the negative results, especially since you were really just confirming a virtually zero chance of infection. In fact, if you'd had a positive result, I would have suspected it to be false! (Or that there was something wrong with your exposure history.)
That concludes this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful.
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