Hi doctors, I (a male) kissed a woman when I had a small  healing mouth sore about 6 weeks ago.  It was not entirely deep kissing, but somewhat deep kissing. I kissed her like 6 times on and off. I made sure it was not entirely deep kissing. I was on a date with a woman. I did not know her. I did not see blood in her mouth, at least not what I could see. my mouth sore was gone next day. but the next day, I got up and began to feel bad. ( I should note I was already getting headaches and neck pain before this kissing incident; I was having out a coffee shop a lot where people were sneazing and cold weather came).  But after the kiss, with a day or two I began to feel really bad, with a sore throat getting worse, and body aches. I did not have a rash,  but after two weeks I got 1 small dot and two raised small bumps on the lower part of body, near the right hip. I did not have a fever,  and no noticeable night sweats.  I began to feel warm as if i have the flu. I was sneezing somewhat too. But my sore throat continued into six weeks (currently), and I still have body body aches. I am really afraid I might have gotten HIV from this kissing. And 24 days after the kiss,  I did an HIV 4th generation duo test (in the United States).  It was NEGATIVE. I heard 28 days is like 95 accurate.  Do I need to retest at 45 day mark? The lady said she tested for HIV after I expressed fear and was negative. she said she had genital herpes though. Stragely after kissing my herpes on the nose came back.  I am really scared.

Welcome to our Forum. Thank you for your questions and your implied confidence in our service.  I'll be glad to comment.  Your encounter was low risk- HIV is not transmitted by kissing, even deep kissing and the presence of a sore on your lip does not change that.  In addition, you can be sure that the symptoms you have described are NOT due to HIV or any other STI.  You already had some symptoms (headache and neck pain) before your date and the symptoms which began the next day (sore throat and body aches) began too soon to be caused by HIV or other STI. In addition, your own negative 4th generation test 28 days after the encounter also prove that your symptoms were NOT due to HIV since when symptoms are caused by HIV, tests are always positive.---

Dear Dr. Hook, Thank you so much. 

And I hope she is telling me the truth. She said she went go tested for HIV after I asked her about status because I kissed her. But she did tell me she had genital herpes after i kissed her and said she would understand if i did not want to see her. I never saw her again because I told her I could not see her because of her genital herpes. At least she was honest about that.

1.  The data I provided were for 28 days.  There are not good data for 24 days but it is probably less---

Thanks for the response. 

Aslo doctor, I was racking my brain about what made me ill.; remember I began to get severe heaches and stiff neck before this kissing incident. After talking with a friend, and explaining what I had been eating, she suggested litseria. My symptoms match. Until a few days ago, I was eating different kinds of foreign cheeses; even bree cheese was recalled sometime ago. . My symptoms clearly match litseria symptoms. So I will try treating it. It could explain these symptoms. And now we are having a salmanillae outbreak, as you may have heard.

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