[Question #12488] ARS Symptoms After 10 Days
7 months ago
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Hello doctors, I am a male from Singapore and had an encounter with a female masseuse. After the massage, we french kissed a little and she did lick my penis a little, not a full oral. Afterwards, we performed full nude frottage (she was rubbing the head of my penis against her vagina which was wet. My penis also had precum). I might have ejaculated on her vagina or above it.
Around 10 days later, I developed the ARS symptoms which consists of fever, muscle aches, flu and cough. It got worse on the 11th day but today (the 12th day), it's getting better. I know you've mentioned frottage is a no risk event but I'm wondering if the symptoms I'm having is something I should worry about and whether I should get tested asap. Thank you.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
7 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. I'm happy to help.
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You were at little or no risk of HIV; an exposure like yours has never been scientifically documented to result in HIV infection. That doesn't prove it can't occur, but obviously it is exceedingly rare if it does. Equally important, your symptoms in fact do not sound like ARS. Perhaps the biggest confusion from typical online advice about ARS symptoms is the characterization as being "flu like". Those who first described ARS symptoms (40 years ago) meant "flu like" to refer only to malaise (feeling bad in general), muscle aches, and headache. Influenza also causes cough and nasal congestion, but ARS does NOT cause these. Clearly you caught flu, covid, or a bad cold -- but not ARS.
As for whether you "should worry about and whether...[to] get tested", my advice is that it isn't necessary from a medical or risk perspective. On the other hand, you were worried enough to come here for advice. We always hope that persons in that situation would be completely reassured by our judgment, but that's not realistic for many worried persons: once the idea of HIV is planted in the mind, negative test results often are wise strictly for reassurance. If you feel that way, by all means have an HIV blood test. And you can do that right now: although it can take longer for some newly infected persons to test positive, a negative HIV test now will prove HIV isn't he cause of your symptoms, i.e. you don't have ARS. A standard AgAb (4th generation) blood test would be fine. It isn't possible to have ARS symptoms and test positive, regardless of the time since exposure. (And perhaps you'd also like to know that in the 21 years of this and our preceding forum, with thousands of such questions, not one person has ever tested positive for HIV. You won't be the first!)
Let me know if anything isn't clear. Feel free to let me know the result if you decide to have one. For now, I hope these comments calm your fears!
HHH, MD
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7 months ago
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Thank you so much doctor! Your answer is very reassuring. I will not take the test now as it might be too early. I will take the test at the end of 30 days and inform you of the result. Thank you again!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
7 months ago
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Thanks for the thanks. I'm glad to have helped. Up to you whether to post your negative test result: there won't be much to say other than "Negative as expected." Threads are closed after 28 days or after two follow-up comments, whichever comes first.---