[Question #12784] Is HIV Exposure possible from blood draw?
5 months ago
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Good evening Doctor,
I recently had to go for some blood tests at a lab. To give some context; after the blood draw was done, the phlebotomist took a cotton ball and pressed it on my venipuncture wound immediately as she was pulling the needle out, and then stuck a band aid on top of this cotton ball and my skin.
When I removed this band aid and cotton ball a few hours later, I noticed a small reddish-brown discoloration on the cotton ball. It was definitely NOT my blood, as I could see the dried blood that had come out from my venipuncture wound separately on another area of this cotton ball.
Also, on closely looking at this small reddish-brown discoloration on the cotton ball, it definitely did not look like dried blood at all.
Basically my questions are:
1)if this cotton ball that was placed on my venipuncture wound right after the blood draw was previously used and had another patient’s fresh blood on it, and if this patient was HIV positive, could I get infected with HIV from this cotton ball
2) Based on what I said above, do I need to test for HIV?
Thank you for your time and patience
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
5 months ago
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Welcome to our Forum and thanks for your questions, as well as your implied confidence in our service. I'll be glad to comment.
Obviously, I have no idea as to what the reddish discoloration was on the cotton ball. That said, I would not worry about the situation you describe. The reasons for this are multiple and I will list some of those below:
1. If somehow someone else's blood had gotten on the cotton ball, it is unlikely the the person who was the source of the blood would be a person with untreated HIV. HIV is uncommon and over half of persons who have HIV are on treatment, making them non-infectious.
2. HIV looses it's infectiousness on contact with the environment. Both drying and room temperature contribute to this very quickly.
3. We're HIV containing blood on the cotton ball, the virus would stick to the cotton fibers, not be transferred to you.
4. The puncture would have sealed and would not provide access to your blood stream, which would be need to cause infection.
5. FYI, there are no proven cases in which a person has become HIV infected through the sort of exposure you describe.
My advice:
1. See above, this sort of exposure would not put you at risk for HIV.
2. Testing is always a personal choice however I see no medical or scientific reason for testing. Should you choose to test to address any lingering concerns you might have, a HIV R?NA PCR test would provide conclusive results any time more than 11 days following the event you describe or, alternatively, you could wait to test for 6 weeks using the most widely used test, a 4th generation, combination HIV antigen/antibody test.
I hope this information and perspective is helpful. If anything is unclear please use your up to 2 follow-ups for clarification. EWH
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5 months ago
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I forgot to mention; on day 2 and day3 after the blood draw, I had mild night sweats, thigh pain a blocked nose that eventually became a little runny. I didn’t have a fever but I was slightly warm However during this time I was on my periods and taking an antibiotic and anti-allergy medication since I was recovering from a flu which started before I went for this blood test.
I’m not sure if any of these medications caused the symptoms I felt after the blood draw
So my questions are:
1) Just to confirm, I there is no need for me to test for HIV right?
2) Do the symptoms I described above sound like ARS symptoms? Is it too soon to be ARS symptoms?
3) Regarding the 4th point in your response ;so if a reused cotton ball with fresh HIV positive blood were to be placed on the puncture wound while the wound was still open, is it possible to contract HIV this way? Sorry for my ignorance
5 months ago
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Sorry a quick correction; I meant to say - recovering from a flu that I already had way before I went for the blood test*
Once again, thank you for your time and expert advice
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
5 months ago
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Two days following your blood test would be far too early for a recently acquired HIV infection to cause symptoms. The onset of symptoms is typically around 7-10 days.
1. Correct, I see no need for testing related to the events you describe.
2. The symptoms did start too soon and neither thigh pain nor a runny nose suggests the ARS.
3. Even if the cotton ball was reused and contaminated as you suggest, you would not be at risk.
Please don’t worry. EWH
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5 months ago
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Thanks for the response doctor,
Since this is my last follow-up, these are my final set of questions:
1) Based on your reply in point 3, Why would I not be at risk for contracting HIV even if the cotton ball with fresh HIV blood were placed on my open venipuncture wound? Wouldn’t the blood be able to go through an open venipuncture wound?
2) So all these symptoms I’ve been experiencing could be from the flu and allergy medication I’ve been taking? Because I’ve been wondering why am I having such symptoms
3)My eyes have suddenly been itchy for the past 3-4 days, Itchy eyes isn’t considered an ARS symptom right?
What are the typical ARS symptoms?
That’s all from me, thanks for your patience and professional advice until now doctor
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
5 months ago
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Final responses:
1. To cause infection material carrying the virus must enter the bloodstream. As I have already explained above first, any virus present would adhere to the cotton fibers, and second and more importantly it would remain on the surface of the skin outside the vein and the bloodstream. The sort of event you describe would not Introduce material into your vein.
2. I cannot address whether your runny nose or the thigh pain you described might be due to medications you are taking or not. What I can tell you, however, is that they are not signs of recently acquired HIV. In addition, as I also mentioned to you, the symptoms of recently acquired HIV would not begin within two days of infection. If the symptoms you are experiencing are troublesome, you should probably talk about them with your doctor.
3. The typical sides of the ARS due to recently acquired. HIV is a severe flu like illness occurring somewhere between seven and 20 days following an exposure. The typical symptoms include a high temperature, severe sore throat, widespread muscle, and or joint aches. In a minority of persons, there may be a rash or diarrhea.
I really think you are worrying about this far more than you need to. As I mentioned in my initial comments, there has never been a case of HIV proven to have been acquired in the manner you described. I hope that my reassurance and the information I have provided will be helpful to you moving forward EWH
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5 months ago
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Alright doctor, thanks for the detailed reply! And yes you are right, I’m being overly anxious about this and your responses have made me feel better and less anxious for sure
Thank you