[Question #12911] Still worried about vaginal contact
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4 months ago
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Hola doctors,
First of all thanks for your help always. My question is that I think my situations are not risky for HIV so I am having unprotected sex with my wife (we are looking to be parents) but I keep worrying and live with anxiety..
On August 1st of last year I took an HIV antigen test to get rid of this anxiety and it came back negative. The thing is that I have continued to attend from time to time to some erotic massage, always without seeking penetration even with protection but I am afraid that when the masseuse has slid naked on top of me her parts have rubbed mine or even penetrated a little, I'm almost sure not because I would have avoided it or remember.. I do remember that with her breasts and belly touch my parts but not a forced rubbing between our genitals.
These events have happened in Spain but some masseuses have been Colombian or Venezuelan, in theory they do not offer sex but will have their private lives.
What would be your advice for this? I know I should stop going to these massages and I'm going to try it. Gracias
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
4 months ago
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Bienvenido de nuevo.
I had trouble locating your previous question (no. 11662). From now on, please choose one or the other username and stick with it. After reading that discussion, I do not understand what you expect to learn that wasn't discussed at that time. There is no HIV risk from sex without penetration. Contact of breasts, mouth, or genitals without penetration all are no risk. You do not need testing for HIV or any other STI and can safely continue unprotected sex with your wife.
I hope these brief comments are helpful. Avisame si algo no esta claro.
HHH, MD
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3 months ago
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Gracias Doctor for your kind reply.
I understand your explanations but I would like to know what would be my risk in the hypothetical case that unintentionally there had been some slight penetration or something similar, it is a massage kind of body body body with oils but of course I do not wear a condom because in itself is not seeking penetration, I'm almost sure I would have noticed and avoided that penetration but as it has been 3 or 4 times and I can not remember everything super clear although I am very strict for all this.
Also in some of these massages I have touched the intimate parts of the masseuse with my hands and I bite my nails with superficial cuts and the masseuse stimulated my anus without gloves.
I ask all this and I worry because here in Spain we are not educated about how is the transmission etc and what worries me most is that I have regular sex with my wife without protection.
This winter my wife and I have had colds a couple of times but only minor, she is a doctor and works with children.
Appreciate much your help |
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
3 months ago
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These comments do not change my assessment or advice. The notion that there could have been penetration that you somehow didn't notice is ridiculous and I do not accept it. You know very well that's an irrational emotional reaction, not a realistic concern. But even if that happened, the combination of a low risk your partner had HIV plus the low risk of vaginal sex in the first place (well under one chance in a thousand if the female is infected) makes your actual risk under one chance in millions. And it does not matter that you "touched the intimate parts of the masseuse." HIV is not transmitted by hand-genital contact or vaginal or anal fingering.
HIV symptoms do not include common cold symptoms. As a doctor, if your wife knew the facts, she would agree with my analysis that there is no risk whatsoever of HIV.
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3 months ago
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Gracias again for your clear and concise answer, I understand what you tell me that it can be an irrational reaction, I know what it feels like in a penetration and I only remember this clear with my wife
So even if my penis rubbed against the vagina (Im uncircumcised...) of the masseuse there would be no risk and you do not recommend me another test right?
I am more confident and calm, because even though it is not a high risk, I am still very worried about it
Have a wonderful day!
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
3 months ago
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"So even if my penis rubbed against the vagina (Im uncircumcised...) of the masseuse there would be no risk and you do not recommend me another test right?" Correcto, por seguro.
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"I am more confident and calm..." Excelente!
" I am still very worried about it" Como se dice bullshit en espanol? Mierda de toro?
That concludes this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Mis majores deseos y mantente seguro.