[Question #12973] "Ping-pong" STDs in partnership?

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3 months ago

Around 5–6 years ago, I had two encounters where I received unprotected oral sex from different partners outside my relationship. Since then, my partner and I have been fully monogamous. My first STI test (chlamydia and gonorrhea) was done 2–4 months after, and I’ve had three more tests since — four total over 5 years, all negative. I’ve had no symptoms. My partner conceived naturally and gave birth to a healthy, full-term baby two years ago. My concern is not other STDs, but that I may have caught chlamydia or gonorrhea, passed it to my partner before testing, and then cleared it myself(common for men)  leaving her unknowingly infected and potentially causing a “ping-pong” cycle over the years. I understand: chlamydia is rarely passed from receiving oral sex; oral gonorrhea is uncommon and often clears or causes symptoms; long-term infections are unlikely to go unnoticed with no symptoms, testing, or fertility issues; and a healthy pregnancy is strong indirect evidence. Still, I feel stuck mentally. What I hope for is your judgment on whether, EVEN IF I had been infected then, I can now safely let go of the concern. Is “ping-pong” possible over 1 year? 4 years? 10 years? (Male 39, Female 32).

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
3 months ago
Welcome to the Forum.  Thanks for your confidence in our service.  You've clearly done a good job of evaluating the situation and appear to still be worrying.  The facts really are hard to argue with however.  You were NOT infected and both you and your partner have been tested (she was almost certainly tested as part of routine testing related to her pregnancy, even if she was not informed of it) and no infection was found.  I am confident that you were not infected and that even if you had been infected, it would have resolves by now.  My guess is that you have a sense of continuing guilt over your casual encounter which you are having trouble getting past.  I urge you to figure out a way to do so. If you are having trouble doing this on your own, this is a place where counseling may be helpful. It's (past) time to move on.  EWH---
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3 months ago

Thank you very much for your thoughtful reply and reassurance. I understand the risk is low, but a few points still keep the worry looping for me. I live in Denmark, where pregnant women are not routinely screened for chlamydia or gonorrhea — only syphilis and HIV — so that part of your answer doesn’t fully reassure me. More importantly, could you please confirm:

If I had been infected 5–6 years ago, is it medically realistic that chlamydia or gonorrhea could persist silently between two monogamous partners in a ping-pong fashion for 4–5 years — with no symptoms, no complications, and a healthy pregnancy 2 years ago? Negative tests on my side don’t fully resolve it for me, as I understand these infections often clear quickly in men. If the idea of long-term ping-pong infection is medically implausible over 3-6 years, I believe I could let go of the concern.

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
3 months ago
The risk is not “ low” it is scientifically close to zero.  You need to move forward.  EWH---
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3 months ago
Got it Doc. Could you just put a few details on the reasoning behind that almost zero risk? Final question. Best
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
3 months ago
Final response:
1.  You don’t know you were exposed, much less infected.  Odds are you were not 
2.  Over 90% of Gonorrhea and about 60% of chlamydia are symptomatic- you haven’t had symptoms 
3.  You’ve been tested repeatedly with negative results 
4.  Your wife has no signs of infection or consequences 

Putting this together, you are almost certainly worried about something that did not happen.  

End of thread. EWH
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3 months ago
Got it. So even if infected it can survive for those lets say 4-6 years in ping pong, correct? Close to zero.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
3 months ago
Correct.  Closing the thread.  Please do not return.  EWH---