[Question #13070] HPV

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2 months ago
I am 42 and I have never had an abnormal Pap smear until now which showed Atypical Squamous Cells of Undetermined Significance.  The HPV test that was done with the pap is negative.  All I got on the patient portal was repeat in 1 year with no other explanation. I’m highly concerned. I have had genital warts in the past and I know that is a type of HPV. I have always had Pap smears done every year due to having warts and being concerned.  Can a high risk type of HPV be causing this but the HPV test be negative?  What are the chances of this being the start of cancer?  If I repeat the tests in 1 year as recommended, can it come back as cancer then?  I have had multiple std tests done over the past year as well and nothing has come back positive except for this Pap smear. 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
2 months ago
Welcome back to the Forum.  I'm sorry that you continue to worry.  Given the information you provided earlier, I'm not surprised that that the HPV test done on your ASCUS positive specimen was negative.  In some studies over half of Atypical Squamous Cells of Undetermined Significance (ASCUS) is not HPV related.  ASCUS can arise from inflammation, hormonal changes and in some cases is just a transient problem.  I would suggest that you speak with your doctor rather than dealing with the patient portal which will provide non-specific generalizations.  HPV can occur after apparent resolution but after going as long as you have without a positive test it would be rather unusual. 

In answer to your specific questions
Can a high risk type of HPV be causing this but the HPV test be negative?  
It is far more likely that your ASCUS is unrelated to HPV.  Current HPV tests are highly reliable

What are the chances of this being the start of cancer? 
Very low.  Even if HPV were found to be present in a follow-up test, the reason for testing is to be able to observe and, if progression were to occur, allow management

 If I repeat the tests in 1 year as recommended, can it come back as cancer then?
See above.  This is very unlikely.

I really think the most important thing you can do is talk directly with your doctor, telling her/him of your concerns.  I hope this information and perspective is helpful.  EWH
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2 months ago
I do want to add that the comments on the abnormal pap that I just had says inflammation. Does that even mean anything?  I’m just very confused on all of this.  What are the chances this is Hpv related but the Hpv part is just not showing up?  Is this a possibility?  Why do doctors wait a whole year to repeat the tests in a situation like this?  
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
2 months ago
Inflammation is a non-specific  term which has many causes.  

As I already said, if HPV were present, it would have been mentioned.  

HPV  infections progress VERY slowly and when present, most actually go away over a year or two.  Your doctor may be convinced to repeat your test in a few months (that is between you and her/him and is the reason I urged you to talk directly with her/him (not over the phone)) but doing it too soon would simply be likely to detect the same ASCUS changes which were detected initially.

Again, I urge you to not worry and to talk with  your doctor.  EWH
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2 months ago
This is the response I got from the nurse practitioner when I asked about my situation. ASCUS requires more testing but is almost always a sign of an HPV infection.  She said that a negative test result does not rule out HPV. She advised me to follow up in 1 year as recommended which I will do. None of this is promising to me and very confusing. I explained my concerns to her and it was just like I am a number and she didn’t have much time to answer any of my questions. I will be looking for another doctor to help me with further testing when the time comes. Thank you for your help and advice. 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
2 months ago
The nurse practitioner you spoke with has overstated things.  All too often health practitioners fail to acknowledge what they do not know and do not take the time to listen to and hear their patients.  I'm sorry that this was the case.  I agree with your plans to seek another doctor. At the same time, you should consider contacting the DOCTOR that the NP works with and state that you believe you were misinformed, as much as a service to future patients and to address your own lingering concerns.  

as you know, we provide up to 3 responses to each client's question.  This will be the final response as part of this thread.  EWH
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