[Question #13729] Follow Up to May 2025 Questions Regarding Trans CSW Encounter

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1 months ago
Hello Doctors,  Thank you again for providing this service.  In May, I wrote to you regarding an unprotected mutual oral encounter I had with a Trans CSW.   All recommended STD tests performed in July at an urgent care clinic with negative results. However, oral gonorrhea test was not performed since the nurse said they only perform oral STD swabs if there are lesions or sores present.  I had no symptoms including no sore throat.  I attempted to do the oral test myself via a mail order kit but it has been a frustrating process so I gave up on it.  Here are my questions then:   1)  At this point, should I get tested for oral gonorrhea?  I have not had any symptoms and it is my understanding that it can clear on its own.  Also, WBC count from last 2 GP visits were normal.  2) How common are gonorrhea infections of the bloodstream?  I ask because over the past 6 months I have been experiencing random hives on various parts of my body.  One of the possible causes that came up is gonorrhea.  A gonorrhea rash is the result of when the bacteria has spread to the bloodstream but since this is rare and there are usually other symptoms, e.g., joint pain, etc. associated with it which I do not have, I ruled it out.  The normal WBC results also helped me reach this conclusion.  Turns out I have chronic hives which is currently being treated with strong doses of antihistamines. Thanks again for your assistance. 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
1 months ago
Welcome back to the Forum. I cannot access your prior questions- perhaps you are using different methods to sign in.  Irrespective, I am confident that whichever one of us responded, that we assured you that the encounter you described was low risk.  Whatever testing you had proved that you did not get penile gonorrhea or other STIs that you tested for.  It’s unfortunate that you were unable to get and oral test to provide further reassurance.  Despite that, I am confident that you do not have oral gonorrhea at this time, nor does anything you describe suggest disseminated gonorrhea.  I’m guessing you have been on the internet and misled by what you found there.  In response to your further questions:

1.  You don’t know that your partner had gonorrhea or if he did that it was transmitted.  Most oral exposures to infected partners do not result in infection.  Further, had oral infection occurred, it would have most likely spontaneously resolved in the 3-4 weeks following infection.

2.  Very rare.  Further hives are not characteristic of disseminated gonorrhea.

My advice is to not worry further about the encounter you had about 8 months ago.  I see no medical or scientific reason for further testing or for concern of any sort.  EWH


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1 months ago
Thank you Dr Hook for your quick response which has confirmed my belief that I am negative for oral gonorrhea so I will not pursue additional testing.  Dr Handsfield answered my original question back in May and provided me the same answer as you.  I did the STD testing for my own reassurance, sans the oral gonorrhea test.  The timing of getting the hives seemed too coincidental so I spent alot of waisted time looking at pictures of gonorrhea rash until my allergist confirmed it was chronic hives.  
I have a general follow-up question regarding oral gonorrhea, if you don't mind.  How does oral gonorrhea resolve on its own?  A few medical websites acknowledged that oral gonorrhea does self-resolve (while most STD sites do not) and the few sites that do also opined that self-resolution of the bacteria can lead to further antibiotic resistance.  I found this information comforting for my own situation but also disturbing for the long term treatment of gonorrhea since I've read it is becoming more antibiotic resistant in certain parts of the world.  Appreciate your thoughts.  I look forward to your response (no rush) and thanks again for providing this much needed service.         
 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
1 months ago
Many bacterial infections are self limited as our bodies ( our “ host defenses”) do a good job of fighting off infections such.  While this can happen at any site, the oral cavity which is constantly exposed through the things we eat, drink, breath and kiss is particularly good at this.  STI like gonorrhea and chlamydia do resolve spontaneously as well although perhaps not as readily.

I know of no data that suggests that resolution of infection without treatment leads to development of antibiotic resistance and don’t see why it would.  EWH
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1 months ago
Thank you Dr Hook.  I have no more questions so you can close this thread. 
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
1 months ago
Thanks for your thanks.  We wish you the best.  EWH---