[Question #13797] HIV
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13 days ago
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Doctor Handsfield / Doctor Hook
I met up with an Egyptian girl on a dating app here in UAE.
We did not have sex or oral of any kind.
However, we did OPEN MOUTH DEEP KISS with tongue a couple of times for 10-15 seconds.
She claims that she last had sex 3 months ago. I did not ask about her HIV status as I had no desire for intercourse to happen that night and I believe in mutual testing before starting any relationship anyway.
Long story short - the dating has fizzled out and we no longer speak.
I have consulted a family friend who is an infectious disease professor at a UK University. He says that there is zero need to test for HIV on account of deep kissing events and zero need to worry, even if she was somehow infected.
He said there will only ever be a risk of HIV if I was to (with an infected partner): A) have unprotected vaginal / anal sex (very rarely, oral), B) share drug needles; or C) get drenched in that partner’s blood.
He advised me to look forward without any HIV worries whatsoever.
Do you both agree with this analysis?
(i.e no need to worry, move on; and no need to test)
Best regards
Simon
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
13 days ago
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Welcome to our forum. Thank you for your questions and you were implied confidence in our service. I’ll be glad to comment. Your friend has given you good advice. Your partner is unlikely to be infected with HIV however, even if she was, thereis no risk for HIV from deep kissing.
You are also correct that there is no risk for acquisition of HIV unless you engage in unprotected penetrative, sexual intercourse or inject infected material deep tissue. Even being drenched and someone’s blood is unlikely to cause infection. As your friend is suggested, there is no reason for concern and no reason for testing. I encourage you to move forward without concern. EWH.
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13 days ago
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Thank you for taking the time to comment, Doctor Hook. I have been a nervous wreck over the last 24-hours but it seems to have been over nothing.
Relevant to the same date night, the girl was also smoking Shisha. I recall seeing red blotches on the head of the pipe. I assume it was her lipstick (but not 100% sure) and thought nothing of it before taking 2-3 puffs of the Shisha. I wish I had cleaned it first before my turn.
I have browsed the answers of yourself and Doctor Handsfield and it seems that there is NO HIV RISK from sharing straws, vapes, cigarettes and cutlery etc. with an infected person.
Was sharing the Shisha pipe also no risk for HIV, even if the red blotches happened to be her blood?
(Aka - also no need to test and move on completely without worry?)
Thank you
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
13 days ago
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I’m glad you are cautious about misleading things found on the internet. You are correct that, in the unlikely situation that the girl had untreated HIV, there would be no risk of infection from sharing the pipe. EWH---
