[Question #13930] csw concerns

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1 months ago
Hi Dr, hope your well!

I got drunk last night and visited a brothel in the uk, the girl I saw was mid/late 30’s and white British.

The place itself was busy with plenty of waiting punters , the basic charge was only £35 for 30 mins.

She gave me oral with condom, then same condom was used for sex, this lasted around a minute or so until climax.

I’ve noticed this morning a have a dark purple bruise on the shaft just below the foreskin , assuming this was caused by the oral?is this something to be concerned over?

I was drunk and I’m pretty sure the condom didn’t fail, but I’m not 100% convinced and I definitely had vaginal fluid on the condom and on bare skin near the base of penis.

I’m freaking out now, do I need testing and can I continue sex with my regular partner?


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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
1 months ago

Welcome back to the forum. Thank you for your continued confience in our services.

You needn’t worry about your penile bruise. Few if any infections of any kind, and no STI, can cause symptoms sooner than ~36 hours and generally it’s 2-3 days and up to a few weeks. Second, no STI starts out as a bruise or other skin discoloration. There is no doubt the bruise is due to minor trauma and not a cause for concern

Female sex workers in brothels, bars, and street walker are generally considered high risk for HIV and other STIs, compared with escorts – i.e. expensive FSWs by appointment. Escorts generally take precautions, are tested frequently, and most of their male clients are low risk as well. That said, in all settings the levels of risk for any particular sex worker are highly variable, That your FSW apparently uses condoms (even for oral sex, which is low risk even if unprotected) is a good sign.

Contact of your skin with saliva or vaginal fluids – penile or anywhere else – isn’t a concern. It virtually always occurs because it is difficult to avoid. But it’s little or no risk for all STIs. That aspect of your exposure shouldn’t concern you.

Should you be tested? That’s a personal as well as medical decision. From a medical/risk perspective for this exposure my judgment is no; the risk is too low. OTOH, risk alone isn’t the only reason for testing:  reassurance itself if a valid reason. If you’re going to be nervous regardless of my evaluation, then before sex with your regular partner wait til 4-5 days after the event and have a urine gonorrhea/chlamydia test; you should have the result in a day or two. You also could consider syphilis and HIV blood tests after 6 weeks, but the risks are so low that I would not advise holding off that long on sex with Ms. Regular.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn’t clear.

HHH, MD

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1 months ago
Thank you very much for you reply..

Does your opinion change if indeed any part of let’s say the minute of sex was indeed unprotected due to condom rupture ?
I know i definitely had a condom on but it was quite dark and cannot be 100% sure it didn’t fail, especially after the oral was quite rough especially if I was left with a bruise.

Would this warrant starting prep?
It’s been around 32 hours since the exposure.

Could you offer some numbers or stats on the likelihood I caught any std’s inc hiv.

If you had been in this situation, here in the uk, would you feel to need to abstain from sex with my girlfriend, I’m a white British man aged 48.

This was a one off moment and not something I’ve been doing on a regular basis.

Thank you again 

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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
1 months ago
If the condom broke, obviously the STI risk was higher. Post exposure prophylaxis (PEP not PrEP) doesn't seem warranted but it's always an option. If you do it, keep in mind that is greatly delays the time to conclusive HIV testing, meaning you would be uncertain for several more weeks than without PEP, perhaps as long as 2-3 months from now. Another option would be to discuss this with the sex worker and ask her to be tested for HIV. You also would be obligated to tell your regular partner about all this.

If a female partner has untreated HIV, on average a male sex partner's risk of being infected in a single episode of unprotected vaginal sex averages around one chance in 2,500. If your condom broke, presumably it wasn't for the entire duration of interccourse, so your risk would be lower than this. And as of yesterday, you seemed confident there was no condom breakage. Also, it is my understanding that in the UK the frequency of female to male sexual transmission of HIV is very low.

However, the only way to a decision about PEP is in person care by a knowledgeable health professional. In personal terms, if I were your situation I would not seek PEP -- but I'm not you. If you want to seriously consider it, I would suggest an immediate visit in person to a genitourinary medicine (GUM) specialist such as your nearest GUM clinic.
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1 months ago
Thanks again dr!

So, if I were to turn up in your clinic with this exact story , would you not start me on prep ? Because the risk is far too low ?

And if you were me, knowing what you know, you wouldn’t start on prep given the circumstances ?

After all, duration max of 60 seconds for sure.

Also I’m also very unlikely to catch any other std from this exposure , herpes etc ?

Thanks again and I know it’s my last reply


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1 months ago
Sorry, finally should I wait to get hiv test before I resume sex with my partner? Or am I being over reactive to the apparent low risk encounter ?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
1 months ago
Repeat questions. As I said, I would not take PEP if I were in your situation and would not be inclined to prescribe it for you, but such decisions are always valid discussions between worried patients and their doctors. I gave you other alternatives above, such as determining your FSW partner's HIV status. The risk of all STIs is very low and herpes is quite rare for any single exposure, but nobody can say the chance is zero. Sex with your main partner is a personal more than medical question. For all the reasons discussed, the chance you caught anything you could transmit to her is very low but not zero. Perhaps you should ask yourself:  if you're concerned enough to be asking the questions, is it fair to her to continue sex? It may be -- but that's a relationship issue, not a medical one.

That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.

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