[Question #13993] Erotic Massage

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1 months ago
I recently had an erotic massage with a happy ending, where sexual intercourse is typically not part of the service. However, during a simulation of intercourse using hands, I briefly felt that my penis may have entered the vagina for a short time. I stopped immediately. It has been 5 days since the event. I have experienced symptoms such as fatigue, muscle aches, chills, discomfort when swallowing, and a sensation of low-grade fever (though my measured temperature is normal). My penis appears normal, with no pain or visible change. I feel quite anxious about the possibility of HIV or others STIs.
My questions are: 1. Based on this type of exposure, is there a realistic risk of HIV transmission? 2. Are my current symptoms consistent with early HIV infection, or more likely related to anxiety? 3. Do you recommend any testing, if so, when would be appropriate? 4. What about the risk of other STIs? Thank you.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
1 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.

First, your symptoms are not due to any infection from the event described. Neither HIV nor any STI causes any of those symptoms. (Advanced HIV, i.e. after many months, could do so -- but not within 5 days.) These symptoms are highly typical for the physical manifestations of anxiety -- which fits with your own statement about feeling anxious. Even more, whenever someone asks whether their own symptoms might be due to anxiety or other psychological stress, usually they are right!

Second, the exposure itself carried little or no risk. Even if your penis did partially slip into your partner's vagina, such brief and superficial contact carried little chance of infection. And the absence of penile discharge or painful urination within 5 days also is reassuring.

Those comments pretty well cover your numbered questions, but to be explicit:  1. "Realistic risk of transmission?" No, little or no risk -- i.e. nothing "realistic". 2) No, your symptoms are not "consistent with early HIF infection" and indeed are "more likely related to anxiety."

3,4) Testing and other STIs? In theory there could have been a small risk for gonorrhea, chlamydia, or syphilis. Gonorrhea is already ruled out by lack of discharge and painful urination. Chlamydia symptoms can take longer 1-2 weeks, and syphilis longer still (up to 3-4 weeks). Honestly these are so unlikely that from a risk standpoint I don't advise testing. However, reassurance alone can be a valid reason to be tested. If you find yourself still worrying despite my assessment, you can have a urine gonorrhea/chlamydia test at any time; and could have syphilis and HIV blood tests after 6 weeks. But honestly if somehow I were in your situation, I wouldn't be worried and would not be tested.

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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1 months ago
Thank you very much for your detailed reply. I have a few follow-up questions:
1. If we take a conservative assumption that my penis did slip into the vagina and there were some movements for a short duration, would your assessment of "little or no realistic risk" for HIV and other STIs still apply?
2. In addition to the symptoms I mentioned, I now have some throat pain when swallowing. Can I be confident that these symptoms are not related to HIV infection? 
3. During the massage, She gave me a handjob using vaginal secretions and saliva, as well as body to body massage. Would any of these carry a risk for STIs?
4. Should I be concerned about HPV or herpes?
5. Regarding testing, would you consider it optional, or still advisable for reassurance?
Thank you again for your time.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
1 months ago
1. Yes, my reply takes this additional detail into account, especially in regard to HIV. (Even unprotected sex to completion with an untreated HIV infected female has under one chance in 2,000 of resulting in transmission of the virus to her male partner.)

2. No. Your mouth and throat were not exposed unless maybe by kissing -- which is a possible risk for colds etc, but not for STIs or HIV.

3. Hand-genital contact is no risk even when genital fluids or saliva are used for lubrication. Not enough bacteria or viruses can be transmitted in this way.

4. Also little or no risk.

5. My advice about testing hasn't changed. The main potential reason is just for reassurance, not because of significant risk. It's entirely up to you.
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1 months ago
Hello Doctor,
Thank you for your reply.
Here is an update. Today is day 19 since the massage. My genital area still has no visible changes, and I have no pain.
This week, I feel some discomfort in the area connecting my nose and throat, and I am not sure if this is related to an STI or HIV.
Given the situation at day 19 and the absence of genital symptoms, what do you think about the possibility of HIV/STIs?
I am still quite worried about HIV, and the anxiety has been affecting my daily life and concentration at work.
Thank you again for your time.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
30 days ago
Such minor "discomforts" are typical for anxiety increasing concern or awareness of minor issues that otherwise would not be bothersome and perhaps not even noticed. Trust me on this:  you were at zero risk for HIV. In addition, perhaps you would like to know that in the 22 years of this and our preceding forum (medhelp.org), with thousands of questions from persons worried about HIV, nobody has yet reported they tested positive. You won't be the first. If and when if finally happens, undoubtedly it will be genuinely high risk exposure (like unprotected vaginal or anal sex with a known infected partner) and not a trivial risk-free event like yours. Don't worry about it!

That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe.



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