[Question #1853] A query for dr Ed hook with love ( blood swallow &casual contact )

42 months ago
Greeting dr hook I am glad I found you ! 

I have questions regarding swallowing HIV blood directly or indirectly 

I  do not know if this a hoax but I am baffled that HIV could be transmitted from contaminated drinks or swallowing blood . 

I read your comments on medhelp that acid in stomach won't allow HIV to survive if you swallow HIV blood regardless of the amount .  And swallowing blood directly or indirectly won't cause HIV to an adult  . I see you were scolding some people out of frustration because you were saying it cannot happen almost to say that this is fake rumour on HIV . 

why would one not get infected if one swallowed HIV blood ? (Main question)

That  statement was back in 2010 now I want to know  my questions are : 

1) I have items that look exactly like blood  for e.g a cough syrup (it looks like blood ) and I take them every now and then . If it's mixed with blood and I digest it can I get HIV ? 
 
2) Are they any official cases where one drank HIV blood and got HIV ?  In history of aids apademic? 

3) I am healthily male even if I swallow HIV blood regardless of the amount and my gum condition are okay can I get HIV ? .   I don't even know how blood tastes like 

4) If only natural Blood inside was present inside a  bottle would it clot also after a few minutes or would it stay in liquid form like water and soft drinks do ? 
  
Doctor  I got HIV test  yesterday just because of this and I was negative . But doctor  isn't this a sexual disease ?  How am I going to go to Restraunt's ? 

The problem is how would I know if I'm drinking blood or not , and I want you tell me son if you drink HIV blood all you want you can't get HIV . It just doesn't happen . 

Please provide the real picture  as this is a bit disturbing or just outdated information

Other questions (casual contact ) 

5)If ones hiv  bloody  finger were too touch my intact gums can that transmit HIV ? If not why ? E.g  a fingering  in my mouth from HIV positive person  any known transmission This way ? Regardless of gum sore ? 

6 blood splash to the eye has that ever caused HIV ? I visit a lot water parks in the past
Lastly may I not worry ever about such things ? 


             



Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago

Welcome to the Forum.  I'll be glad to address your concerns.  I suspect I wasn't scolding people regarding misperceptions of how HIV is transmitted.  What I said in 2010 however remains to be true.   There is NO evidence that ingestion of small (or I guess large although I'm not sure why or how that would happen) amounts of blood is a risk factor for HIV.  Certainly there are NO instances in which HIV has even been suggested as having been acquired from ingestion (eating or drinking) food or drinks contaminated with HIV contaminated food or liquids and thus this is not something to worry about.  The reasons for this continue to be that the oral cavity and gastrointestinal tract are resistant to the many bacteria and viruses that come in contact with it on a daily basis, as well as the fact that one food and drink get to the stomach the acid there would kill viruses, preventing infection.   Anything encountered on the internet which suggests otherwise is wrong.  No, to address your specific questions: 

1) I have items that look exactly like blood  for e.g a cough syrup (it looks like blood ) and I take them every now and then . If it's mixed with blood and I digest it can I get HIV ? 
See above.  This is not a concern for HIV.
 
2) Are they any official cases where one drank HIV blood and got HIV ?  In history of aids apademic? 
No, not a single case or suggestion in the entire history of the HIV epidemic.

3) I am healthily male even if I swallow HIV blood regardless of the amount and my gum condition are okay can I get HIV ? .   I don't even know how blood tastes like.
Blood tastes a little salty as many people have noted after biting their lips.  No risk for HIV, irrespective of amount ingested or the condition of your gums (there are other good reasons to pursue gum health, mostly having to do with keeping your teeth)..   

4) If only natural Blood inside was present inside a  bottle would it clot also after a few minutes or would it stay in liquid form like water and soft drinks do ? 
Blood mixed with liquids as you suggest would probably not clot unless there was much more blood present than liquid.
     
Please don't worry about getting HIV from ingestion.  HIV is only acquired through direct sexual contact or injection of infected material from an infected person deep into tissue with a needle.  I am confident that if you are not doing these things, your HIV test will be negative.  There is no HIV-related reason to worry about restaurant food. 

5)If ones hiv  bloody  finger were too touch my intact gums can that transmit HIV ? If not why ? E.g  a fingering  in my mouth from HIV positive person  any known transmission This way ? Regardless of gum sore ? 
No risk- see above.

6 blood splash to the eye has that ever caused HIV ? I visit a lot water parks in the past.
HIV would not survive in water at a water park.  No person has ever been infected with HIV from being splashed by water contaminated with HIV containing blood or secretions.

I hope these comments are helpful.  Take care.  EWH  .

 

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42 months ago
Most humble of you to respond in such fashion  I am relaxed with the blood digesting part . That was a wasted HIV test for sure 

Well  this has been very heavily explained just one or two points you can shed some light on mr hook 

1) why does not hiv blood live in liquids such as water or cough syrup ?  Can it survive in any liquids we drink these days 

2) when fingering  with HIV hand with poor hygein possible blood is no risk umm why is that ?  Is  mouth is a hostile environment for HIV ?  I did see above when you said . It said I would need a needle then to put me at risk correct ? Or there is some other reason  ( anyone infected in this fashion ? ) gum condition makes no difference ? 

3) when I said blood splash to the eye even it's not mixed with water it can be just blood splash to the eye even then no one has been infected this way ? 

Thank you for responding to me very quickly dr hook 




Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago
Straight to your follow-up questions:

1) why does not hiv blood live in liquids such as water or cough syrup ?  Can it survive in any liquids we drink these days 
The virus is killed in liquids, sometimes because of the contents of the liquids but also because viruses can break apart when mixed with water or other liquids.

2) when fingering  with HIV hand with poor hygein possible blood is no risk umm why is that ?  Is  mouth is a hostile environment for HIV ?  I did see above when you said . It said I would need a needle then to put me at risk correct ? Or there is some other reason  ( anyone infected in this fashion ? ) gum condition makes no difference ? 
This is a repetitive question.  Please read my answer above.  The virus does not pass through the skin of the hand of other non-mucosal body parts. 

3) when I said blood splash to the eye even it's not mixed with water it can be just blood splash to the eye even then no one has been infected this way ? 
Correct, no one has been infected in this way.  Part of the reason for this is that the blink reflex is very fast and cleans out the eye before infection can occur..

EWH.

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42 months ago
Point number one 1) got it ! 

Point number 3) I am clear got that also eye is  defensive 

But point number 2)  a bleeding finger cannot transmit HIV touching via mouth  and touching ones gum .   HIV needs to penetrate deep into tissue ? What does that mean  . Is finger scratch to the mouth Cause HIV to the mouth  or gums cause HIV ? .      Or should i just forget about this part also and it's not known to be tramisted this was via a superficial scratch   doctor .     Deep into tissue mean huge bleeding injury to the mouth ? 

Any known transmission from being scratched inside the mouth from HIV positive I think that would be helpful to answer 

Thanks 
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
42 months ago

These are repetitive questions.  HIV is transmitted only by INJECTION of infected material DEEP into tissue.  Surface contamination does not transmit infect, including in the mouth.  HIV is not transmitted by superficial scratches.  No one has ever been proven to have become infected by being scratched inside the mouth by an HIV infected.  NEVER means never.

This is my third reply to these questions.  Therefore, there will be no further replies and this thread will be closed later today.  Further repetitive, anxiety-driven questions will be deleted without comment and without refund of any fees.  You need to relax and move on.  Take care.  EWH

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42 months ago
Your a gem doctor sorry for saying that you were scolding someone in the start of my post good day !