[Question #2290] New products wetness alone keep HIV or hepatitis infectious
98 months ago
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Dear doctor hook and hunter
My questions is basically does HIV and hepatitis can be non infectious even if they remain wet once it's outside the body
My question is on wetness of packed products or any other things which isn't dry . If something is wet I think HIV and hepatitis is alive . For e.g just using a moist cream or purchasing a wet tissue which have fragrance or something as simple as using a bandaid on my wound they all have some moist features on then if you apply anything on your wound
I don't care if HIV or hepatitis is diluted in my personal items or just sitting in moist surface of my personal products or when I use anything wet products on at parlours and if gets into my mucous membrane or my wounds
. All I want to know that wetness alone does not keep HIV or hepatitis active if it somehow remains wet outside the body I spoke to my doctor yesterday
1)And he said that HIV blood or bodily fluids need a little more than just wetness to stay active. They need the human body to stay alive and once outside the body the human cells which keep HIV or hepatitis alive or active . Easily die out and well hiv and hepatitis will be non infectious even if wet .
In short he said without the human body HIV or hepatitis would be dead and forget about wetness . He said wetness is only an issue if somebody immediately cut you with fresh blood or you used needles immediately or in car accidents or lab conditions But if I purchase packed personal items such as let's say a wet tissue which are packed and are always wet .and other similar items that can be moist such as band aid . HIV or hepatitis would be non infectious even if wet
Is my doctor correct by saying wetness alone will not keep HIV or hepatitis alive even if wet wether it's blood or bodily fluids he has to be right doctor I am sure ?
2) Finally I have read by doctor hunter and you also say that HIV and hepatitis once outside the body even if wet lose the power to infect . And no body gets HIV and hepatitis from the environment. So if someone was to contaminate my personal items and I doubted the wet materials on my items even if they are packed in bottles or packets such as wet tissue or bandaids on my wounds etc . It doesn't matter because nobody gets HIV or hepatitis outside of he body . Who cares if it's wet bandaids or other personal items are packed ? And environment means anything outside the body except needle ?
I basically don't want to fear wetness if I don't see blood on my products I begin to think okay what about wet HIV or hepatitis bodily fluids which I don't know how they look because they are transparent especially on bandaids .
I have one question on medical procedure also
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
98 months ago
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The questions you ask the questions that we have answered many times before. The answer to the questions will not change. Transmission of HIV infection does not occur outside of the body from the environment. HIV is transmitted only through direct sexual contact or through injection of infected material deep into tissue ias occurs with a needle. Environmental exposure does not lead to HIV. Your doctor is correct. HIV would not survive in moist or wet packaged materials such as body creams bandages fragrances etc., particularly if they are packaged. Your concerns are not justified. You need to put these fears aside. I hope that my comments will help you to do that. EWH---
98 months ago
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Dear dr hook I knew my doctor had to be correct I was just double checking it was all just very confusing
1)So you agree with my doctor basically at the moment this all I want to know wetness alone in hiv or hepatitis blood or fluids such as vaginal fluid or semen not keep HIV or hepatitis alive it will die even if wet correct once it's left the body because it has no host and no human cells to keep it alive in packed items or even moist surfaces ?
2) so just think of any wet materials I encounter as dead HIV or hepatitis fluids no worries there is nothing in the environment (packed items wet or moist items even if HIV or hepatitis isn't diluted in them wetness alone won't allow HIV or hepatitis to survive no need to worry about drying )
3 if I see wetness on bandaids or anything else no worries because wetness alone doesn't not keep HIV and hepatitis alive . No need to worry about drying HIV and hepatitis will be nonifectous or dead even if wet because there is no human body no cell to keep them alive correct ?
4) can you say these words to be that would be helpful you may copy paste “ in simple terms wetness alone will not keep HIV and hepatitis alive it doesn't have to dry up to be dead . HIV and hepatitis (blood or fluids vaginal fluid ,semen etc ) will die once outside the body virtually immediately and even if wet or moist in personal items
as they leave the body and especially die in packed items or moist surfaces in which they arnt allowed to dry up and packaged items are all part of the environment or packed moist surfaces bandaids are considered to be in the environment outside the body so therefore you can't get HIV or hepatitis once it's outside the body wetness or dryness doesn't matter as it does not have the human body to keep HIV an hepatitis alive without human body HIV and hepatitis would die even if wet and nobody gets HIV or hepatitis once it's outside the body from objects or cuts or applying anything on your wound disregard HIV or hepatitis outside the. Body especially in packed moist or wet items “ unless ofcorse I do something like a knife fight which is immediate or immediate needle sharing or lab condition
5) finally I want to take injection at hospital for example flu shots or vaccine . Assuming the syringe is brand new no worries but no reason to fear the wet medicine although I now know that wetness alone will not keep HIV and hepatitis in blood or fluids I am sure I won't see any blood in the medicine which they will transfer it to the syringe and then give me an injection .
Anyways since it's wet medicine I'll worry if it's some other HIV or hepatitis bodily fluid again I have nothing to fear just because it's wet and not dry . Wetness alone will not keep HIV or hepatitis alive the cells would die etc and nothing can be stored like this and I can safely have my injection at the hospital if I doubt the wet material which is actually medicine no HIV or hepatitis bodily fluid can be present correct and I can safely take the injection at hospital
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
98 months ago
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1. Correct. Outside of the body HIV quickly becomes non infectious.
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2. Correct
3. Correct.
4. I agree with the substance of this redundant statement but am not at a computer where I can copy paste.
5. Correct, no reason to worry about an injection or blood draw from a new, unused needle. No reason to fear wet medicine
EWH
98 months ago
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Dear doctor hook I have not read too many of your previous replies especially on This forum I cannot search questions on this forum . Many questions don't appear up but anyways I have my replies so may I have nice detailed reply also kind sir i hope you will be happy to comment ?
I want you to add a few words even through have have said correct ! To my answers would like to make sure if you understood what I was saying my English is decent but not that great
For question 1)
When you wrote above “correct HIV becomes non infectious quickly after leaving the body” it's the same for hepatitis b and c also .you missed out on hepatitis . So can you respond by saying HIV. And hepatitis c or b or other stds both are non infectious even if wet when they are outside the body and they don't have to dry up to be non infectious in your final reply just for my well peace of mind and just add yes you agree with my doctor when he said HIV and hepatitis will easily die even if wet because they are no cells no human body to keep HIV or hepatitis alive . No need for fear wetness . Because of things are wet I fear HIV and hepatitis are alive this is where my doctor said I am 100 percent wrong . No need to wait for drying out and as you say dr hook HIV and hepatitis will die even quicker on moist surface infact it doesn't matter where it is once it's left the body it's non infectious no need to fear wetnesss ? There is no HIV or hepatitis outside the body wet or dry doenst matter ?
2) HIV and hepatitis outside the body non infectious once outside the body even if wet and no need wait for drying out . What does Non infectious means HIV and hepatitis are dead nothing is alive correct it cannot harm me ?
5) HIV and hepatitis or any other stds don't have to dry up to die they will die even if wet because it does not have the human body to keep it alive ? For e.g HIV or hepatitis on moist surface which won't allow HIV or hepatitis to dry up
5) therefore any wetness I encounter any unknown wetness in bottles , packed items or packed wet bandaids or medicine wet bottle at hospital that I get injected with I have nothing to fear wetness and they arnt dry . Wetness alone will not keep HIV and hepatitis alive blood or fluids vaginal fluid or semen etc ?
6) And that is why I cannot get HIV or hepatitis from environment. And environment means anything outside the body in packed items , or bottles or anything that's on tables or containmted objects for e.g a gauze or scissors and just to add if I have future tooth scaling at dentist they use a wet chemical with instrument to penetrate the gums no worries assuming the tool is sterilised I have nothing to fear the wet material being used on my gums ?
7) hope you understood what I am saying there is no HIV or hepatitis outside the body and I don't have to fear wetness . If it's wet I think HIV or hepatitis and this is where my doctor said I was wrong HIV and hepatitis dies immediately even if wet becase no human host and I don't have to fear wetness anymore Now .
HIV an hepatitis will die either way wet or dry
Becase there is no human body
98 months ago
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And when I say HIV and hepatitis b or c that means wet HIV blood or bodily fluids vaginal fluid or semen .
And if you can also enlighten what doctor hunter always means when he says you cannot get HIV or hepatitis from the. Environment. Anything outside the body wether it packets or inside dental medicine instrument which use chemicals or hospital medicine Bottle all wet items and anything else outside the body is all called environmental assuming new needle are used no need to fear just because something is wet and not dry
Thank you
98 months ago
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And that is also why I cannot hiv or hepatitis also from INANIMATE objects that wet and not dry
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
98 months ago
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Your follow-up reply is far longer than the 1500 character that is allow even for initial questions and is repetitive and redundant. This is an abuse of the intent and purpose of this forum. I will provide additional brief answers and then, as this is my 3rd reply, the thread will be closed later today. Should you choose to then try to repeat essentially the same questions, your question may be deleted without a reply and without return of your payment.
1. The statement is correct for hepatitis B and C as well. These infections are not transmitted through environmental contact.
2. These viruses become non-infectious even before they are dead, while they are in the process of dying. HIV and hepatitis B and C are not transmitted by environmental contact and become non-infectious outside of the body.
5. Correct and repetitive
5. Correct and repetitive.
6. correct. This includes dental procedures.
7. Repetitive. Wetness would not be sufficient for HIV to survive outside the body. This includes contact with bodily secretions, including ejaculate and vaginal fluid
I repeat, the forum does not permit repeated anxiety driven questions by the same users. This will have to be your last one; future new questions on this topic will be deleted without reply and without refund of your posting fee. This policy is based on compassion, not criticism, and is designed to reduce temptations to keep paying for questions with obvious answers; because experience shows that continued answers tends to simply prolong such anxieties, when the real answer normally should be professional counseling; and because such questions have little educational value for other users, one of the forum's main purposes. I trust you will understand. EWH
98 months ago
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Dr hook dhook ! One second please thanks I got the answer
Just lasts part is golden form me wetness alone is not sufficient for HIV to survive that's alll I want to to know this the same for hepatitis also that is all I want to know in the last part where you wrote thank you for your time
Sorry for abusing this was not my intention dr hook
98 months ago
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Please accept apology . But I'm only a first time client it was only two messages but my apologies I did not know this forum has strict rules