[Question #2298] Hello Dr. Huntrer

44 months ago

Hello Dr. Hunter and Dr. Hook

I had an unprotected but superficial relationship (genital friction) with a vaginal penis. There were secretions of the vagina on the head of the penis. Comboag/ab test was conducted after 27 days of relationship and test hiv1&2 auntiboody clia after 45 days.
I have some questions
* Does this relationship transmit the disease?
* Is the disease transmitted through the opening of solutions?
Are the tests clean and final?
I’m sorry I do not speak English well

H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
44 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question. Unfortunately, it is not clear:  maybe you could find a friend who understands English well to help re-phrase your questions.

I'm afraid you'll have to clarify your meaning. What do you mean by "vaginal penis"? I think you might mean a dildo, i.e. artificial penis. If so, there was little or no risk, even if there were vaginal secrtions on it.

I also do not underand "opening of solutions".

But maybe the most important part:  Your negative tests are conclusive. Probably you were not exposed to HIV. But even if you were, you can be sure you did not catch it.

Best wishes--  HHH, MD

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44 months ago

Took a girl home from a pub; unknown status (I am a male, heterosexual). We got involved in mutual masturbation, and there is a risk that the head of my penis touched the outside of her vagina, hence her vaginal secretions could have touched the head of my penis. 

I was sober and very wary of what I was doing (so I thought). No penetration, just concerned that her vaginal fluids from the outside of her vagina touched my penis. I am really scared. What are my chances assuming she had HIV of becoming infected (I do not know her status). No penetration, just rubbing, possibly against the outside of her vagina.
My tests1. combo after 27 day
2.Hiv1&2 clia anti body after 45day 
I need another's test? ?

H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
44 months ago
Thank you for clarifying things.

No STD or HIV is ever transmitted by hand-genital contact, even when genital fludis are used for lubrication. It does not matter if your penis briefly touched her vagina: there is no risk for any STD by simply touching the vagina or slight contact with vaginal fluids. Fir syre tgere was zero risk for HIV. But even if you had been exposed, your test results are conclusive. The combo test at 27 days is about 98% conclusive; and the CLIA antibody test at 45 days is the same. The two tests together prove you did not catch HIV. No more tests are needed.

I hope that helps. But let me know if anything isn't clear.

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44 months ago
just worried fluid somehow dripped into my urethra (slim chance - small hole thank god), or under my foreskin (again small chance) with no penetration. Penetration, by my definition, is where I put at least the whole head of my penis in her vagina, which did not happen .
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
44 months ago
This doesn't change my opinion or advice. If you think it through, I think you'll understand why this shouldn't worry you. Among the billions of hand-genital episodes that must have occurred over the 40 years of the known worldwide HIV/AIDS epidemic, there are no known cases of HIV or other STDs being transmitted. And with billions of exposure, obviously there must have been some potential for a partner's HIV- or STD-infected genital fluids to come into contact with the urethral opening; even a rare occurrence out of billions translates to millions of such contacts. And still no known transmission.

So I cannot say for sure that this didn't happen. But I remain confident this exposure did not put you at risk for HIV or other STDs.
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