[Question #2550] std? chronic/latent hiv?

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97 months ago

Hi Doctors, I had two encounters with CSW in februrary. One was in a high end stripclub in florida and the other with a high end escort in Europe. In florida I had protected oral and protected vaginal sex. At the end the penis softened but I believe the condom covered the head all the time. The vaginal sex was very brief (1 minute or less). She mentioned she was clean. In Europe I had protected oral, protected vaginal and also performed oral sex on her. The day later I started having very dry lips. This sensation has lasted until now. She also mentioned she was clean. Last week I was diagnosed with contact cheilitis by a dermatologist. Also for the past several weeks I have been having facial pain, especially in my cheekbones, and also headaches although they feel more like pain above the ear and in muscle covering the head. These pains come and go. Additionally in the past months I have noticed several ingrown hairs in my buttocks and turn into pus filled “pimples”. Finally, for the last two weeks my stomach always seem full and uncomfortable and Ive had some abdominal pain.

Questions:

·       Could the cheilitis be caused by an std?

·       Could I have latent/chronic hiv? Do my symtpoms sound like it?

·       What are the symptoms of latent chronic hiv in the first year/ first six months?

·       What are the chances/odds that I got an std from these encounters? Hiv in particular?

·       Should I get tested?

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
97 months ago
Welcome to our Forum.  I'll be pleased to comment.  Each of the exposures that you describe are quite low risk events.  Most commercial sex workers do not have STIs, only a small proportion of exposures to infected sex partners lead to infection (even without protection), and condoms remain the most effective way to prevent STIs if exposed to an infected sexual partner.  All of your sex acts were condom protected except for an episode when you perfromed oral sex on your partner and that is a very low risk sex act.  There is little risk for STIs of any sort, including HIV from the activities you describe.  As for your specific questions:

Could the cheilitis be caused by an std?
Angular chelitis is usually a fungal infection and can be worsened with licking your tongue in the area.  It is not an STI.

·       Could I have latent/chronic hiv? Do my symtpoms sound like it?

No Nothing that you describe is in any way suggestive of HIV. 

·       What are the symptoms of latent chronic hiv in the first year/ first six months?

HIV of less than a year's duration is not "chronic" as it takes years for the infection to make obvious changes to most infected person's health.  Persons with HIV of less than a year duration are almost always asymptomatic

·       What are the chances/odds that I got an std from these encounters? Hiv in particular?

Very very low

·       Should I get tested?

Nothing you have described suggests a pressing need for testing for STIs including HIV.  We do recommend regular (annual) testing of sexually active persons with multiple sex partners as a screening procedure as part of routine sexual health.  Testing is easy to do and accurate.  In your case, while there is no immediate need for testing, it might help your concerns and relieve worry.  It is, obviously, your decision as to whether to test or not.


I hope these comments are helpful to you.  EWH


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97 months ago
Thank you Doctor Hook.  Some follow up questions:
  • could the oral sex cause the cheilitis?
  • does performing oral sex generate any risk of getting hiv?
  • when you say odds of hiv are very very low for my exposures do you a numerical estimate for them? (i am not circumcised)
Thanks again.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
97 months ago
No, oral sex does not cause chelitis.

There are no proven cases of HIV acquired from performing unprotected oral sex on an infected woman.  Even the CDC whose estimates tend to be conservative suggests that oral sex on an HIV infected woman has only a 1 in 10,000 risk of HIV acquisition and it is unlikely that your partner had HIV.

I would estimate your risk for HIV as far less than 1 in a million from the activities that you have described.  EWH
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96 months ago
Last follow up: some sources mention angular chelitis as a symptom of hiv. Is this the case or is it only a symptom of advanced/late stage  Hiv? I have usted various antifungal medications and the chelitis does not go away...
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
96 months ago
Angular chelitis is typically related to fungal infections.  These are more common in HIV but, most people with angular chelitis do not have HIV.  You really do not need to worry.

this is my third reply to your questions.  As you know, after three responses, threads are closed as described in the introduction to the Forum. This thread will be closed later today.  EWH
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