[Question #2686] Follow up to question 2618
95 months ago
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Dear doctor.
I am really sorry to be back but I am still concerned about my situation. I have sought counseling and hope this helps but in the mean time would appreciate advising on couple of points.
I took another 4th generation lab test 5 weeks after the last exposure "receiving anilingus" and 8weeks after receiving oral and rimming and it came back negativethanks god. this was my second negative test.
The second lady tested 33 days after our exposure and she was negeative.
I hope all ends well but would like your assurance as in my country there is limited advise.
-How certain can I be that I didn't catch Hiv. From both exposures?
-anatomically is it poosibale for hiv to be passed from receiving anilingus "isn't the outer anus a moucus membrane ?
-does the low risk of an exposure increase with repeated exposure?
-would i need further testing
Thanks in advance and apologies for repeating the question but there was the new test that I took after the closure of my earlier question.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
95 months ago
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Welcome back to the Forum. I'm sorry you felt the need to return. The concerns you express are not associated with any meaningful risk for HIV and there is no need for additional testing.
There are no data to suggest that analingus is associated with ANY risk for HIV whatsoever and I see no medical or scientific reason to recommend testing following receipt of analingus, receipt of oral sex or rimming (which is essentially analingus, isn't it) irrespective of whether your partner had HIV or not (and the partner you describe did not have HIV- see below). There are no proven cases of HIV which have been attributed to this route of exposure. You will not be the first.
As for your test results, the fact that your most recent partner was HIV negative 33 days after your last exposure virtually assures you that she did not have HIV and was not infectious to you. Further, your own tests at 35 days with a 4th generation, combination HIV antigen/antibody test likewise provide strong evidence that you did not get HIV. While official recommendations are that results of 4th generation tests are not definitive until 6 weeks (42 days) after exposure, the proportion of cases which are not detected by 4 weeks (28 days is tiny- neither of us on this forum has ever seen such a patient). When we combine the routes of exposure you report, the test results you mention for your partner, and your own test results your results are definitive. You did not get HIV form the exposures you mention and there is no need for further testing related to these exposure. EWH
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95 months ago
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Hello Doctor.
I really can't express my gratitude for your guidance. Thank you so much.
I went for a further 4th generation test at 42 days and the result came back negative thanks god. This was my third test the first being 2 and the second 5 weeks post exposure. I really don't know where to go further now, I am still in shock mode at my behavior.
I read the CDC website and their wording seems to say "An antigen/antibody test performed by a laboratory on blood from a vein can usually detect HIV infection 18 to 45 days after an exposure.
Can I be 100% sure of my results are conclusive in ruling out HIV. Should I test more or ask the two lady's to test any further (both of them tested 33days post exposure with 4th generation test ? Is a PCR test necessary at this juncture.
I am a bit worried since I am planning to have a monogamous relationship.
Thank you again in advance.
95 months ago
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What worries me the cdc statement uses the word "usually" and 45 days instead of 42 days.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
95 months ago
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Sigh. We sometimes get tired of repeating ourselves. This is not a debate. The CDC is a governmental agency which feels it cannot "afford" to be ever wrong. Their guidelines are conservative and not specific to any one person's situation. You have received a specific explanation, tailored to the exposures you report. My answer will not change. You have proven that you did not get HIV from the very low risk events you describe. If you want to test more related to this event you may and I cannot stop you. On the other hand, in my opinion, for you, you could just as well take the money you will spend on additional testing and light it on fire. The results are not going to change!. EWH
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94 months ago
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Hi Dr. Edward.
I just want to say I went for an STD check on week 7, and everything came back negative thanks god.
-The chlamydia and gonorrhea were done through throat swab and urine sample. should I test through an anal swab also given my type of exposure?
-The HSV1&2 test was a PCR test (blood drawn from vein), from what I read online I gather this is the wrong test, Should I do the antibodies test, what tests and at what times would it be conclusive?
-The syphilis test mentioned Syphilis Rapid Plasma Reagin, Qualitative. Is this the right test at this time (7 weeks after last exposure).
-WBC was 30 and RBC was 7 and Epithelial Cells were 130, , would this worry you or raise concern?
-The doctor offered me an HIV test but I told him I already tested alone, SHould I do further HIV test or I am out of the woods?
Thanks again doctor and apologize if you thought I am debating you. You helped me 7 years ago and Dr. Handsfield helped last year and this year. But as you can imagine anxiety is a big issue here! Thanks again and god bless you all.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
94 months ago
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Glad to hear of your negative test results. Straight to your questions:
1. Whether or not to test is of course, up to you. I realize you are anxious about having received analingus and suspect you might like the reassurance that a negative test would provide. I am confident that if you do choose to test, that an anal swab test for gonorrhea and chlamydia will be negative.
2. You are correct, a blood PCR test for HSV will not be helpful. Personally, I recommend against testing but if you feel you must, an IgG (not IgM) HSV antibody test is the test to do. I suspect you like most people will find that you already have HSV-1, probably acquired in childhood an would not worry about it. if your antibody test for HSV-2 is positive, it is more likely to reflect a previously acquired infection than a recent infection form the exposure you have described.
3. This is the correct syphilis test and the result is conclusive at 7 weeks.
4. 30 WBC in your urine suggests a possible urinary tract infection, not an STI.
5. a 7 week HIV test is conclusive. You are out of the woods.
Thanks for your tanks. I am glad we have been ale to help. As you know, since this is my third reply, this thread will be closed later today. EWH
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94 months ago
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Thanks for your quick reply Dr! I will discuss this on my next visit.
Just to clarify I did not test for HIV again at week 7. The last test for HIV was on week 6.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
94 months ago
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Understood. Believe your results.
This thread is now closed. EWH
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