[Question #2713] HIV From French Kissing

41 months ago
I "french kissed" a lady about 8 weeks ago and I wanted to know if this is really a risk for HIV? (the CDC website says it is a risk) I had a 4th generation HIV test at 6 weeks and it was negative.. Is this test result considered conclusive? or do I still have to wait 12 weeks per the CDC website guidance?
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
41 months ago
You are in the clear.  There are several areas where our advice differs from that of the CDC.  In general, we attribute this to the fact that the CDC, as a governmental, politically influenced organization tends to be conservative and must provide generalized statements about risk.   I have never seen or even heard of a case of HIV acquired through French kissing, nor am I aware of credible reports of persons who acquired HIV through French kissing.    There is no HIV present in saliva and regular, "social" kissing is not considered a risk for HIV even by the CDC.  Further, with your testing, you have absolutely ruled out the possibility of HIV.  At 6 weeks combination HIV antigen/antibody tests provide conclusive results.  If you tested at six weeks, you are in the clear. EWH

p.s.   it saddens me that CDC and others who provide such conservative "advice" related to what are generally theoretically but unobserved events do not consider the anxiety and fear that their (in my opinion) overly conservative advice leads to.  EWH
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41 months ago
Thank you DR Hook! Yes it's very confusing to someone that tends to be specifics driven like myself. It did create a large amount of anxiety but hearing from an expert such as yourself makes me feel much better!
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
41 months ago
Glad we could help. Please don't worry. Time for you to move forward without concern.  EWH
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41 months ago
Last response I promise and then I'm moving on... this is the comment from the CDC website: There's no chance of getting HIV from closed-mouth or "social" kissing, and you can't get HIVthrough saliva. In some very rare cases, people have gotten HIV from deep, open-mouth "French" kissing because they and their partners had blood in their mouths from bleeding gums or sores (like canker sores).  

This is the reason my anxiety grew because they state there have been "very rare cases"  where people have gotten hiv from deep open mouth "French Kissing"  
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
41 months ago
I am aware of what the CDC says.  I am not sure of the purpose of this follow-up post.  It in no way changes my assessment or advice.  You really need to figure out how to get control of your concerns and move on. 

This thread will be closed later today.  EWH
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