[Question #3383] Need Expert Advise

37 months ago
Hello Doctor

I am writing about a specific strip club experience that I had last Friday which I went with my colleague. Basically I had got three lap dances from three different strippers. Each was a quick one for 5 minutes. All that happened was that I pressed/rubbed and touched the thighs, breasts and off course lot of buttocks and butt cheeks rubbing with my hands. Never kissed, never fingered and never touched the nipples. I did not have any kind of sex with the strippers as I was fully clothed. When I was done and when we left the club, my colleague was trying to confuse me that there might be risk in wat I did as he did not get any lap dances. After reaching home I was upset and I was thoroughly scanning my palms and I did find a tiny reddish pink spot under my right thumb and a very small red line on my left palm. I know for sure that I did not  get a cut or there was blood on my palms but never understood when I get tiny little red dot. I started to google and went to medhelp and poz forums to seek assurance but my anxiety made me come here as my case was unique.all I wanted to know is did I put myself into risk of catching hiv or any stds. Does the strippers buttocks or thighs or breast skin host live std organisms which can get into my palms. Please help me as I am not able to even reveal this to my wife. Do I need any kind of testing. Because of this I did not have sex with my wife over the weekend. Even if there was a cut or few drops of blood wud that cause any risk. Really Scared 
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
37 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.

STDs are not simply infections that happen to involve the genital area. The bacteria and viruses that cause them evolved to require sex for transmission -- and that means real sex, i.e. genital-genital, genital-anal, or genital-oral contact. They are not transmitted by hand-genital contact, and they cannot be caught by having contact with an infected person's breasts, thighs, buttocks, etc. You do not need testing for anything and you can and should continue your normal sexual practices with your wife. There is no chance you can give her any infection from your strip club adventures.

I hope this information is helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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37 months ago
Thank you so much Doctor for your valuable advise. So your reply is applicable for all stds including hiv and I don’t have any kind of risk. Is that Correct doctor
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
37 months ago
Yes, correct:  for sure no risk for HIV or any other STD.---
37 months ago
Doctor

Please forgive me for  asking this absurd question again.  Even if there was a cut or  blood  on my palms wud that cause any risk. Please reply. I know that i didnot cut my palm  or didnot have blood dripping out. 
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
37 months ago
Look at it this way. During the 30+ years of the known worldwide AIDS pandemic, there have been billions of personal contacts that involved hand-genital contact between persons with and without HIV.  Cuts and nicks on the hands are very common, so it therefore stands to reason that millions (or billions) of such exposures involved such wounds, blood contact, etc. But still NO known cases of HIV transmission by such contact. And you didn't see any blood exposure anyway!

Don't confuse your anxiety about a sexual decision you regret with infection risk from that decision. They aren't the same. Deal with the former as you need to (counseling? discuss with your partner?) but forget the latter. It's not an issue.

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37 months ago
Thank you so much Doctor. I  am very clear now. I will never indulge into such foolish incidents again. Thanks again for the valuable help you are providing to us.
37 months ago
Hello Doctor

Sorry for asking again and please forgive me for asking this question. This is reference to one of the questions answered in this forum (

[Question #863] Strip Club HIV Risks worry)  where the person used to go very frequently to strip clubs over a period of 12 years and regularly get lap dances with dancers of unknown status.  Your response was Responding to the title of your question ("Strip club HIV risks"), before I read the question itself:  Almost certainly you are not at risk at all. If there is no intercourse (penis inside another person's vagina, rectum or [rarely] mouth, then there is no risk of HIV.  But   you also said that  "But the real question here is why you have not been tested for HIV. You should do it. This does not mean I believe there is any risk; I definitely do not. But the negative test result probably will give you more reassurance than anything I can say based on risk calculations, probabilities, etc." Reading this i m getting worried. Please clarify  this. Did you say this because you didnot include the status of the person's wife HIV status while assessing. You mentioned about risk calculations and probabilities. So is there an uncertainity involved. Does the same apply to me.  Am i good to go in my situation. Is every question asked here is unique in nature.  Please advise. 

H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
37 months ago
This doesn't change my opinions and advice about your situation. Each reply to every question is specific to that particular user and not necessarily applicable to others. You need to stop reviewing either this forum or the internet about this situation. It is obvious you are being drawn to information and comments that inflame your fears and missing the reassuring information that also is available.

Of course anyone is free to be tested for HIV if the negative result will help convince them they don't have it. But you are not at risk for HIV from the events described. Period. Believe it, move on, and stop worrying about it.

That concludes this thread. Please do not be tempted to post a new question that has anything to do with this exposure and your concerns about HIV or STDs. Thanks.

Really, move on. This was a nothing event in regard to STD/HIV risk. I hope the conversation has helped you come to understand that.
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