[Question #3535] Genital Rubbing - STD risks

36 months ago
Girlfriend and I took a break a few weeks ago and I ended up with a girl early 20’s it was really late and both had been drinking.. anyways, we both were touching eachother and from my memory just rubbing genitals together for about 10-15 minutes, she may still of had underwear on but some there was some contact between my penis and her vagina (no if any penetration at al) Keep in mind this girl looked very clean and is friends of my friends basically, I don’t know her personally but doesn’t seem like she gets around to much at all. 

Back with my girlfriend now and I am worried that I may have got something like Gonorrhea or Chlamydia from this encounter, and don’t want to give it to girlfriend. It has been about 2+ weeks and haven’t noticed anything wrong with normal activities, my peeing is pretty normal but I can feel it coming out a little more when I go (a little more frequent but I think from anxiety) could be me over thinking. Would a scenario like this require me to go get testing done? I really don’t want to have to do that as it was a mistake and I don’t want to relive it. Also my work now isn’t available to get it done, am super busy at the moment

Only real thing I have noticed is last night I ejaculated and there appeared to be a tint of green in it, also kind of jellow like, probably had this before but over reacting because of scenario. I hadn’t drank enough water during the day and think that could have caused it.

I have had sex with girlfriend a few times since encounter and it has been fine I just want some reassurance that I don’t need testing for this particular occasion.

Mainly my question is: Would I have already had symptoms of Gonorrhea or Chlamydia by now? I have had no discharge or pain while urinating and would they be fairly severe?

Thank you!!
36 months ago
I am a healthy young adult in early 20’s never had an STD. Just worried about whether or not an encounter where rubbing penis to vagina could be a high risk for gonorrhea or Chlamydia.

Also the fact I haven’t had any burning while urinating or random discharge from penis in the 2+ weeks since encounter. Does that somewhat suggest I should be alright? Thanks again
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
36 months ago
Welcome to our forum.  I'm please to be able to tell you with confidence that the encounter you describe did not put you at risk for gonorrhea, chlamydia or other STI.  I say this with confidence for a number of reasons.  The reasons I say this, in no particular order include:
1.  It is unlikely that your casual partner had an STI- most people do not.
2.  There was no penetration.  Without penetration, most STIs are not transmitted. 
3.  It sounds as though she had her underwear on.  If this is the case, this too assures you that there was no risk- STIs are not transmitted through cloth, even when that cloth is wet with genital secretions.
4.  You are now two weeks out and have not experienced symptoms.  Gonorrhea typically becomes symptomatic in most infected persons in five days or less.  Chlamydia takes a bit longer but most likely, were you to develop symptoms (not all chlamydia symptoms are symptomatic) they would have occurred by now.

Putting each of these facts together, I really find little reason for concern about STIs from this encounter.  Similarly, I see no reason for testing at this time either.

I hope these comments are helpful and will help you to not worry.  EWH
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36 months ago
Thank you for the quick response!

There may have been slight penetration but barely from what I recall, as well the underwear may have been off for the penis to vagina touching.

But I have been fine no symptoms or anything.

Would this change your opinion at all?
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
36 months ago
No, no change in my assessment.  I would not be worried.  EWH
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36 months ago
One more question for you as I have never had an STI before.

Could you explain like why STI’s are not really transmittable by just rubbing genitals?

The pain/discharge that one would get from Gonorrhea or Chlamydia is it fairly severe? Like to the point where you can’t bear with it anymore? Or is it bearable.

Clearly overthinking when I am urinating and am wondering if the pain would not be tolerable.

Also for my girlfriend, she has not had any discharge or anything and we have had sex more than a few times since like last week and she’s fine. Would she have likely already had symptoms?

Thanks for your time! And appreciate you easing my worries about this scenario.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
36 months ago
Final Responses:

Could you explain like why STI’s are not really transmittable by just rubbing genitals?
The type of skin involved is an important determinat of tranmission.  Penetration leads to exposure of the more vulnerable sorts of tissues that are found inside of the vaginal or within the penis.  OTOH, external, superficial skin is different and more resistant to infection.  As a result, STI transmission through genital rubbing (the technical term is "frottage) is generally considered safe, in the same way that masturbation with exposure to genital secretions is also considered safe sex without risk for STIs.

The pain/discharge that one would get from Gonorrhea or Chlamydia is it fairly severe? Like to the point where you can’t bear with it anymore? Or is it bearable.
No, patients are sometimes surprised that the discomfort associated with gonorrhea or chlamydia is not excruciating.  It is bearable and patients can tolerate the discomfort in virtually all cases of infection.

...for my girlfriend, she has not had any discharge or anything and we have had sex more than a few times since like last week and she’s fine. Would she have likely already had symptoms?
Most STIs in women are asymptomatic and when symptoms are present, they tend to be non-specific.

I hope this information has been helpful.  Our site provides up to three responses to each client's questions.  This is my third reply and therefore this thread will be closed in a few hours without further answers from me.  Take care and stay safe.  EWH
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36 months ago
The discharge that one would see from Gonorrhea or Chlamydia is it like all the time and very noticeable?

I would like to move on from this just trying to wrap my head around it as I don’t know exactly what symptoms would present itself and it’s timeframe.

How many infected people show burning/discharge and in what time frame?

It has been about 18/19 days since event
36 months ago
Have one further question there^ and that will be all
Edward W. Hook M.D.
Edward W. Hook M.D.
36 months ago
Your follow-up (and final) questions are repetitive.  Final answers:

Over 95% of men with gonorrhea are symptomatic and is typically noticeable.  For chlamydia, it is about half of men being symptomatic and the discharge can be more subtle.  For gonorrhea, symptoms typically occur at 3-5 days after exposure while for chlamydia sym0ptoms can take 8-10 days to occur in most patients. 

I presume that if you were going to develop a discharge, you would have done so by now. 

This thread will now be closed.  EWH
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36 months ago
So basically I’m good to continue sex with girlfriend and move on from this mistake/bad decision?