[Question #3597] Hpv immunication/behavioral characteristics
88 months ago
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I'm a healthy(that i'm aware of) 30 yo male. I've had a fair amount of sexual partners thus far. I recently started the immunization, I'm in between first and second.
-fully protected from current exposure but not infected yet? I believe I read Dr. Hansfield or Hook mention that
-or fully protected from reinfection from an old virus?
2. Is reinfection in healthy individuals something that is uncommon? My concern would be that something would reappar if I had a night out of having beers, or had a week where I didn't eat as well, generally reducing my immune response? or are we talking that is has to be on a larger scale as in AIDS or other immunodeficiencies?
3. Is it common to have exposure without infection? What are the chances of being exposed to the cancer causing strains, 16/18? Do we all come in contact with them eventually. Can we build immunity without infection?
4. Am I protected forever after having the immunization? I read ( believe from Dr. Hook or Hansfield) that after the second immunization, you are fully covered? Is that at 2 months, or just whenever you have the injection (as you can have them at 1-2 months).
I just want to be secure that I won't pass anything on to anyone else as there's a lot of info out there on the subject.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
88 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your questions and your confidence in our servides.
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First let's be sure we're clear on terminology. Reinfection means catching a new infection with a particular HPV type if reexposed to it. The context of your question suggests you're also asking about relapse, i.e. previous infection suppressed by the immune system but now reactivating. Reinfection is uncommon even without vaccination -- that is, the immune system reduces (but probably does not eliminate) the risk of new infection if reexposed to the same type of HPV. The vaccine probably is highly effective in preventing reinfection, but has no effect on potential relapse of an infection acquired before immunization.
Second, your questions suggest you may be expecting more from the vaccine than it offers, and I have to wonder exactly why you have started the vaccine at age 30. Normally it is not administered after age 26, because new HPV infections are uncommon and therefore there is less benefit to immunization. And it will have no effect on any prior HPV infections you may have had, or the likelihood you will transmit HPV to future partners. However, now that you have had the first dose, I would recommend you complete all three doses.
To your specific questions:
1) The HPV vaccine is one of the most effective vaccines ever developed against any infection. After you have received the full series of 3 injections (and probably after the second), you will be 100% protected from new infection with any of the 9 types covered by the vaccine. These 9 types cause roughly 90% of genital warts and 90% of cancers, but there are roughly another 100 HPV types. They aren't as common as the 9 in the vaccine, but there is some continued risk of HPV and even warts or cancer after immunization.
2) Here is where I think you're asking about relapse, not reinfection. Given your age and sexual history, you can be sure you have been infected with HPV, probably more than once. Being vaccinated will have no effect on the potential for one of these infections may relapse. But even without immunization, most such infections stay dormant for life, i.e. not detectable with current test methods, never causing symptoms or disease, and not being transmissible to partners. However, all these things happen occasionally.
3) Yes, it is common to be exposed but not infected. That is, most episodes of sex with an infected person probably do not result in transmission of the virus. The cancer causing strains like HPV 16 and 18 are among the most common, so there's a very good chance you already have been exposed and likely infected with them (again, based on statistical probabilities for a 30 year old with several lifetime sex partners). However, there is no known immunity without infection: that is, it is infection that results in immunity, not simply exposure.
4) Evolving data suggest that protection is very strong after only two vaccine doses. However, 3 doses probably is slightly better and is the only regimen known for sure to be 100% protective. You should plan on getting all 3 doses.
There is no guarantee that you won't transmit HPV to a future sex partner, but the chance is fairly low (with or without the vaccine).
I hope this information is helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
88 months ago
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Doctor Hansfield, thank you very much for these answers as they were very helpful. Just to clarify a few things before I move on.
1. You stated, "Given your age and sexual history, you can be sure you have been infected with HPV, probably more than once."
So, if i'm understanding you correctly you correctly, if I've had 30+ sexual relationships over the past 15 years or so with and without condoms, it sounds liek there's a definite likelihood I've been infected with one or multiple strains? However, I read that there are over a 100 types, but 16/18 are the most concerning, my question could be tailored to ask, what is the likelihood that those strains (16/18) were the ones infected in someone in my situation? People state it's very common for hpv, I just didn't know how that related to the cancer causing types if you could offer input on that. It sounds like they are the most commonly transmitted from the information I'm reading from you? And that you retain that immunity for quite a while, or for our lifetime? And it is unlikely to reoccur
2. I believe i'm understanding you correctly so for the immunization, it is only relevant if you have not been infected by a particular strain? I wanted to get the immunization in case I hadn't been exposed to 16/18 and didn't want to put anyone else in harm's way, given my sexual history, although it sounds like it is protecting me at this point.
3. And, as far as reduced immunity goes, we're talking for people with major immuno suppressive issues such as AIDS/HIV, et cetera. Not referring to normal everyday stress, occasional drinking, etc.. ( I do not smoke)
Once again, Thank you.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
88 months ago
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1) Studies show that 50% of people acquire HPV by the time they have had 3 lifetime sex partners. Over 90% of sexually active people acquire HPV at least once, and with 30+ partners you can be absolutely certain you have been infected, probably with most if not all the most common types. And since HPV 16 and 18 are two of the more common types, it's a good bet you have had them.
2) Correct, the vaccine only protects against new infection with the types covered by the vaccine. You are a very typical example of why the initial studies of the HPV vaccines didn't enroll people over age 26: at that age, too many (even those with many fewer partners than you) have already been infected with the vaccine strains and therefore would not be protected. More recent research has documented vaccine effectiveness in people age 26-40, but most experts would recommend against vaccination in people with your sexual history.
3) Correct about immunity. There is no evidence that day to day immune system stresses have any effect on HPV. Major immunosuppression like cancer chemotherapy or advanced HIV can promote HPV recurrence and more rapid progression to warts or cancer.
Thanks for the thanks. I'm glad to have helped. Anything else?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
88 months ago
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And by the way, you really shouldn't be worried about being an HPV risk to your current or future sex partner(s). Sex with you won't significantly elevate their risk of HPV, or of HPV disease (e.g. abnormal pap smear, warts) any more than sex with almost any other partner.---
88 months ago
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That's very helpful, thank you! One last question, once I have built up immunity towards a strain is that a lifelong immunity? Thanks again and much appreciated
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
88 months ago
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Immunity from HPV vaccination lasts many years and probably for life (but the vaccine hasn't been in use long enough to know for sure beyond 10 years or so). Natural immunity from a previous HPV infection may be less long lasting.
Thanks for the thanks. I'm glad to have helped. Best wishes to you.
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