[Question #4191] HIV , HEP C Risk??

32 months ago
Hello, I am a female, Saturday night I  went to a swingers club with my significant other to Voyeur and drank too heavily which I never do. The club had a saddle contraption with different dildo type attachments in an open area of the club for people to use, all women this night from what I saw but you never know. I did something sober me would have never done, I used the machine. Before applying the dildo attachment and saddling for (dildo penis) vaginal penetration.  I cleaned the dildo with Germx provided by the club, I think I used my hand to do it and used a clean towel (I'm sure had only been washed, not new) provided by the club to distribute Germx  and wipe the are clean. I also cleaned around the saddle although I don't remember how thoroughly and placed a condom on the dildo before each use. I realize the condom should have protected me from any viruses on the dildo but i'm worried about my outside my vagina being placed against the bottom of the dildo attachment which was a rubber or silicon material. The exposure of my Urethra to  Labia to the surface has me worried. I'd also shaved everything off a couple of hours before going so I'm worried I may have had a small nick or two from shaving that possibly could have been exposed to someone else's semen/body fluids and entering my body exposing me to HIV or HEP C.  I’m usually a very careful and very protective person, I don't take changes. So, I'm very uncomfortable and very worried about possible risk to specifically HIV and HEP C along with other STI"s. The thought of the amount of people that have used that machine freaks me out. My question are: Am I at risk for having contracted HIV? Am I at risk for having contracted Hep C? What are the risk of exposing my labia and outside vagina to the rubber material on the machine possibly contracting something from left over body fluid not picked up by the GERMX? Lastly, is Germx effective in killing viruses and bacteria? Should I get tested for HIV and HEP C?
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
32 months ago
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your confidence in our services.

I really don't think you should be worried at all and I don't recommend testing for any infection on account of your use of the dildo device as described. There is no little or no risk of any infection. GermX would be virtually 100% effective against all STD bacteria and viruses. And no infections can be passed through intact condom material (latex, polyethylene, etc). Even without disinfection or the condom, the risk of infection with STDs probably would have been low, especially if genital fluids from previous users had time to dry before your own use of the device.

HIV in particular has NEVER been known to be transmitted sexually by any exposure except direct sex with an infected partner. Also, assuming most of the couples in your swinger group are heterosexual, it probably is unlikely anyone in the group has HIV. And any infected ones might be expected to be on HIV treatment, which is nearly 100% effective in preventing transmission. As for hepatitis C virus (HCV), despite what you have read, it is not properly considered an STD at all. The only proved sexual transmission scenario is among men who have sex with men and also participate in potentially traumatic (i.e. often bloody) rectal sex practices. In a recent research analysis in the Netherlands, the risk of HCV transmission, if one partner is infected, is once for every 190,000 episodes of unprotected vaginal sex. That's equivalent to unprotected sex with infected partners once daily for 520 years before transmission might be likely. In other words, zero for all practical purposes -- and that's for sex with ejaculation in the vagina.

Anyone who is sexually active outside a committed, mutually monogamous relationship should be tested for common or serious STDs from time to time -- exact frequency depending on frequency of exposure. You don't say whether or how often you have participated in this or other swinger clubs. But all this implies sufficient risk to consider testing for gonorrhea, chlamydia, HIV, and syphilis if not done recently. On that basis, you might consider testing. But not because of the specific events with the dildo device described above.

I hope this information is helpful and reassuring. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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