[Question #4381] Possible Menstrual Blood Exposure

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82 months ago
I was in a country which is considered somewhat higher risk for HIV, and after having too much to drink was with a woman  in a more high risk category due to her occupation.  My drinking totally impaired my memory of the incident and my overall judgment. I always use condoms and am quite sure I did here since I saw an apparently used condom on the floor.  After we were done  I must have fell right asleep and she left, but when I got up I could see that the condom had menstrual blood on it.  I threw it out in a panic and didn't check to verify it was intact, but I remember when I picked it up it was rolled out and it didn't strike me as being compromised. Still, I'm concerned since I assume exposure to menstrual blood greatly increases the HIV or other STD risk for a man with a higher risk female, although I don't recall seeing blood anywhere else other than on the condom. Can you assess my risk for HIV or other STDs from this exposure? 
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
82 months ago
Welcome back to the forum.  As for your question 2 years ago, I'll start by congratulating you for (apparently) using a condom.

We don't recommend the "water test" or any other close inspection of condoms after they are used. If it wasn't obviously ruptured wide open, then protection almost certainly is always complete. The notion of microscopic leaks that can allow transmission of HIV or other STD bacteria and viruses is an urban myth. There has never been a scientific report of HIV or other STD acquired through a condom with such small leaks.

Second and perhaps more important, your assumption probably is not correct. Unprotected vaginal sex with HIV infected women during menstruation appears to be no more risky than at other times. The main biological reason is that in infected persons, the concentration of HIV is just as high (or higher) in genital secretions than in blood. These issues have not been very carefully studied, but that's the general consensus of experts.

In general, we and other experts do not recommend testing after any single exposure unless particularly high risk. If you were to learn your partner definitely had HIV or another active STD, of course testing would be reasonable -- and I can understand why you might want to do it anyway. But you might glance back at your other thread, where I went into more detail about the inefficiency of HIV/STD transmission, even when one partner is known to be infected. In this case, there is the slight uncertainty of whether you used the condom or whether it failed, but the bottom line remains that the odds are strongly in your favor. If somehow I were in your situation, I would not be tested on account of this event. (Of course, if there have been other non-monogamous sexual exposures over the 2 years since your previous thread, perhaps testing would be a good idea now, if not done since then. But not because of this particular event.)

I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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82 months ago
Thanks for your prompt reply. Everything seems clear. I certainly just assumed the presence of mentrual blood increased the risk for a man during vaginal sex. I appreciate you clarifying that point and your overall assessment. 
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82 months ago
My only follow up inquiry is related to the general inefficiency of transmission from any one episode. I've read on here that the average is about 1 in 2500 for any one unprotected incident with an infected partner. I've also read that heterosexual transmission accounts for most transmissions throughout the world. I'm trying to wrap my head around how heterosexual transmission then accounts for most transmissions worldwide - is the consensus that this is largely due to repeated exposure to the same person, possibly with other contributing factors (presence of open wounds or other stds, weakened immune systems, drug use etc), and that such factors may play a role in some of the countries with HIV epidemics? Thanks again.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
82 months ago
Good question and one that comes up from time to time. It's easy to understand difficulty in squaring an apparently low per-exposure transmission risk with the numbers of cases heterosexually acquired. HIV transmission dynamics are complex. The estimate of 1 chance in 2,500 (for the male partner in unprotected vaginal intercourse, if the female is infected) is specific to the US, and probably to most industrialized countries, but not necessarily to places like sub-Saharan Africa, or even localized populations in the US. In some settings and populations groups, such as inner city minority populations. (In Washington DC, for many years the risk of heterosexually acquired HIV in African Americans was just as high as in places like Johannesburg or Nairobi.)

In any setting where HIV becomes especially common, and where most infected persons have not been diagnosed and therefore are not being treated, the proportion of the population with high level infection can be high, with markedly increased transmission risk, surely higher than 1 in 2,500. These same population groups also have especially high rates of other STDs, which further increase HIV transmission risk. Also, most heterosexual transmission occurs in people who are repeatedly and intensively exposed, for example the spouse of a partner not known to have HIV or maybe not even known to be at risk. Very few HIV infections occur from one-off exposures, such as men who occasionally (or even frequently) have commercial sex. Not long ago, someone on this forum asked a similar question and cited Magic Johnson, who apparently was heterosexually infected. But Johnson reports he probably had a couple of thousand ( ! ) sex partners, during a time when few infected persons had been tested and nobody was on anti-HIV treatment; he seems to be a very atypical outlier.

For most people at potential risk, the actual chance of transmission may now be even lower than 1 in 2,500, because more infected people know it and are on treatment. The majority of infected persons on anti-HIV treatment are entirely non-infectious, with no risk at all to their sex partners.

Be clear:  I'm not recommending a cavalier attitude toward HIV prevention, choosing safe partners when possible, and consistent condom use for new or non-committed partnerships. But for any single exposure, even without these precautions, the risk of HIV is very low.

That completes the two follow-up replies included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful. Best wishes and stay safe!
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82 months ago
Absolutely. Thanks again.