[Question #4611] Scared of HIV
81 months ago
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Hello Doctors,
43 days ago I was very drunk and went to a strip club in Las Vegas. I went in the VIP room with a Cuban girl and essentially blacked out. I remember receiving unprotected oral sex, fingering the girl and licking her vagina unprotected for a few minutes. I have no memory of any anal or vaginal sex, but can’t say with certainty it didn’t happen. However when I’m that drunk I’m usually not able to sustain an erection. I got an oral and urine gonorrhea and Chlamydia test at 3 days, an HIV RNA test after 12 days and a 4th Generation HIV test at 30 days. Everything was negative. However, on day 37 I started getting a sore throat, achiness, chills with a fever of around 99.5-100.4. In the morning I felt fine with no fever but everything came back in the evening . Again went to bed and woke up fine and it happened one more time. I went to urgent care and they told me to drink lots of water and take a Zyrtec for three days. I felt fine after that, but I’m scared that I have just gone through ARS. Do you feel this is the case?
81 months ago
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I did want to add that I did have diarrhea during that time, and I never get sick, if that changes anything...
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
81 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.
First, it seems likely that you only had safe sex, i.e. oral but not vaginal or rectal. Even if you did, the chance of HIV from any single exposure -- even if your partner were infected -- is under one chance in a couple thousand. But most important, your HIV test results were 100% concliusive. Those results -- especially the combination of tests you had -- overrule any symptoms you have now or might have in the future. Even if you had highly tyipcal symptoms of a new HIV infection (which you do not), the test results rule. And by the way, ARS always lasts 1-2 weeks, not a day or two.
You're home free. Don't have any more HIV tests.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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81 months ago
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Thank you for your response Dr. Handsfield. My concern is that from what I read on this forum, a fourth generation test isn’t truly reliable until 6 weeks, and RNA tests are only 90% reliable at 12 days. If I was somebody that would not be positive on a 4th generation test until 42 days, wouldn’t it stand to reason that the RNA test wouldn’t become positive until later than 12 days?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
81 months ago
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I don't follow your reasoning, i.e. no reason that a delayed positive 4th gen test would also have to mean a longer delay in positive RNA testing. The COMBINATION of negative RNA at 10-20 days AND 3rd generation antibody (or 4th gen test) at 4 weeks is 100% conclusive. The 6 week time for 4th gen tests applies only when RNA testing is not done.
You came here for professional reassurance by experts. Please accept and believe it. Stop searching the web about it, and do not ask for further clarification. There is no possible additional information you can think of that would change my advice. Time to move on without worry.
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81 months ago
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Thank you Dr. Handsfield. I have 2 final questions and then I will be able to move on from this.
1. I am uncircumcised, does this change anything in your assessment?
2. Can I resume unprotected sex with my girlfriend?
Thank you again for your time with my situation. Happy Holidays.
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
81 months ago
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Just think it through: the answers are 100% clear from everything I said above. Your circumcision status is irrelevant. Your risk for HIV at the time of exposure doens't matter. You could have mainlined HIV infected blood, but your test results prove you were not infected. And since you do not have HIV, it is OK to continue or resume unprotected sex with your girlfriend.
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That completes the two follow-up comments and replies included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion was helpful.
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