[Question #4831] Masturbated

27 months ago
Hello and good morning,
Thank you for taking the time to help me and to help so many others who are riddled with anxiety and fear. You 3 provide a service unlike any other.
With that said I have some questions. I've been doing some research on your website using the search bar, which is a major tool, and I am finding some conflicting reports about one particular subject, hand jobs and STDs. Now I understand that different doctors have different opinions and I was wondering if it would be possible to clear the air some. 
3 Days ago I went for another massage, please don't judge, I am weak and sometimes have zero self control. Anyway, the massage as usual ended with her masturbating me. As stated prior i used the search bar and found some instances where dr handsfield stated that hand jobs are a no risk activity, reference question number 784.  I've seen other instances where Dr Hook has said there is a theoretical risk for transmission of STDs.  How do i decipher between theoretical and no risk?  Does theoretical essentially mean that it just hasnt happened before but never say never?
27 months ago
I would also like to say that I don;t want to come across as if I am questioning your expertise cause i am not, if it sounded like that, I sincerely apologize 
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
27 months ago
Welcome back to the forum. Thanks for your continued confidence on our services.

Basically, you're wondering about minor differences in wording when we advise questioners about the risk of STD from hand-genital contact. You acutally outline the distinction very well, when you say "Dr. Hook has said there is a theoretical risk" and at least one instance when I said "no risk". And that is exactly the difference. It is easy to imagine scenarios in which an STD might be transmitted by hand contact, e.g. with genital fluid used for lubrication and then particularly vigorous contact, or massaging fluids into the urethra. That's the theoretical risk. On the other hand, almost no STD experts have ever seen even a single patient with any STD whose only possible ocntact was hand-genital exposure. And of course there are bilions of such events very year -- but virtually no known infections. Certainly none in my 4 decades experience provding STD care in a busy STD clinic and elsewhere.

In other words, your closing statement is exactly what you write:  "...hasn't happened [or extremely rarey], but never say never."

Usually we remember to never say such contact is truly zero risk, because such infections probably can happen very rarely. So we use terms like "theoretical risk only", "no risk for practical purposes", "no meaningful risk", etc. All these terms mean exactly the same thing. They all mean that after any particular hand-genital exposure, as for a happy ending with a massage, it can be safely assumed there is no risk of STD; no testing is ever necessary after such events; and such men can and should continue unprotected sex with their reglar partners, without worry. In addition, it means there is no need for persons after such exposures to come to this forum asking about risk:  our answers always will be exactly along these lines.

I hope that helps clarify things. Let me know if anything isn't clear.

HHH, MD
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27 months ago
Dr Handsfield,
Thank you for such a detailed answer, it is great appreciated. I have really been doing lots of research on this site and medhelp to find answers to my particular questions, sometimes it is seemingly impossible to do so based on the fact that not everyone experiences the same thing. With that said, again, I've seen some posts say zero chance and others say theoretical. When the word theoretical is used it is like when Dr Hook always says "being hit by a meteorite" or "being struck by lightening" I get that, you cannot say it WILL NOT happen but being able to say you have never seen it before is vastly comforting. With that said i have used this forum to help me through a very tough time, when I thought I had herpes, and boy, what a help it was. Having access to any of you three for $25 is way worth it. With that said I did go to a massage with happy ending a few days ago, as I have referenced, the masseuse used lotion as lube and did masturbate me with some more force than usual, a tight grip. I hope to remain one of the cases where an STD is not transmitted and not turn into one of the theoretical instances as noted. Guilt and anxiety are two emotions that are not dealt with easily and it is majorly difficult when you are going through it by yourself, it was an awful decision and I hope to never find myself in this position again. If I think of more questions I will post them but for now it boils down to one question and one question only. 
What is your take on hand-genital contact? Is it zero or theoretical? 
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
27 months ago
None of this changes my opinions or advice, and I cannot answer your closing question any better than I already have.

The purpose of leaving threads open for follow-up comments is for clarification of the original question, not for any new questions or ideas that come to mind. In addition, please note the forum does not permit repeated questions on the same topic or exposure. This being your third on hand-genital contact and potetial risks, it will have to be your last one on these topics; future similar ones may receive no reply, without refund of the posting fee. This policy is based on compassion, not criticism, and is intended to reduce temptations to keep paying for questions with obvious answers. In addition, experience shows that continued answers tend to prolong users' anxieties rather than reducing them. Finally, such questions have little educational value for other users, one of the forum's main purposes. Thanks for your understanding. 

I hope the various discussions have been helpful.

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