[Question #4976] Receptive fellatio possible HIV exposure 9/10 years ago. Drs please help!!
78 months ago
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Thank you so much for your expert opinion for my following question. I am a 31 y/o virgin female born and raised in the US who has never had vaginal or anal sex but in 2009 & 2010 I engaged in unprotected fellatio with a male 4 separate occasions (twice in 2009 and twice in 2010). He wasn’t ever in prison, not bisexual nor was he an IDU. In these 4 occasions, there was no ejaculation to my recollection but maybe pre-ejaculate and each time lasted 1 minute to 2 minutes maximum. I brushed my teeth before the first 2 exposures and had a root canal and dental fillings around those months (not sure whether any of the dental procedures coincided with the exposures). I’m otherwise in good dental health.
1. Was I exposed to HIV in these exposures? IWithin the past few years (and I have not had any sexual relations since these exposures) I have noticed I develop a cluster of sores 2-4x a year on my gum line near the teeth and sometimes upper palate. Could that be hsv2 and could that have in turn double my HIV exposures? Or could it just be my hsv1 (usually get it on my top lip but I haven’t had it on my lip in years) that I’ve had since childhood?
2. Have not been ill with any opportunistic infections just your standard allergies. Some months before my cycle begins, my vulva will itch so maybe that’s recurrent yeast infections?
3. I want to ensure I am not exposing anyone in the future. Each year when I visit my PCP and they ask if I’ve had sexual intercourse (vaginal or anal) and I say no, they don’t opt to testing me for STDs.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
78 months ago
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Welcome to our Forum and thanks for your confidence in our advice. I'll be glad to comment. Compared to vaginal or anal sex, oral sex (either performance of fellatio or receipt of cunnilingus) are relatively low risk events, particularly for HIV but for other STIs as well. In terms of HIV, fellatio is estimated to have a risk of 1 infection for every 10,000-12,000 acts (i.e. if your partner was infected, like performing oral sex on an infected male daily for more than 27 years). Further your partner sounds to be relatively unlikely with no particular risk characteristics. Thus your statistical risk of HIV is likely something les than 1 in a million and not something to worry about.
As for your specific questions:
1. Was I exposed to HIV in these exposures? IWithin the past few years (and I have not had any sexual relations since these exposures) I have noticed I develop a cluster of sores 2-4x a year on my gum line near the teeth and sometimes upper palate. Could that be hsv2 and could that have in turn double my HIV exposures? Or could it just be my hsv1 (usually get it on my top lip but I haven’t had it on my lip in years) that I’ve had since childhood?
See above about HIV. As for HSV-2, HSV-2 is almost never acquired as a result of performing oral sex because for reasons that are not totally clear, the virus does not "like" to cause infection in that site. Further, sores on the gum line are not typical of characteristic of HSV infections and are more suggestive of a problem called aphous ulcers which are of unknown etiology but are clearly NOT due to HSV.
2. Have not been ill with any opportunistic infections just your standard allergies. Some months before my cycle begins, my vulva will itch so maybe that’s recurrent yeast infections?
This is likewise not a typical symptom of HIV or any other STI. As for it being a yeast infection, perhaps but you would be better asking your own Gyn the next time it occurs than to guess.
3. I want to ensure I am not exposing anyone in the future. Each year when I visit my PCP and they ask if I’ve had sexual intercourse (vaginal or anal) and I say no, they don’t opt to testing me for STDs.
Your risk for STI is quite near zero but my sense is that you remain a bit nervous about this. This being the case, my advice would be to go on an get tested with at least a blood test for HIV. Its been nearly 8 years since your exposure. I see no reason for testing for gonorrhea or chlamydia at this time. These infections do clear/resolve without therapy in most patients, particularly at the throat. If you wish to seek testing at a site other than your PCP, I'm sure this could be arranged confidentially if you live in North America at a local Planned Parenthood or a Health Department at low cost and with a high degree of confidentiality.
I hope this information is helpful. If anything is unclear, please use your up to two follow-up questions to seek clarification. EWYH
78 months ago
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Dr. Hook,
Thank you so much for your reply! This male and I both live in Dearborn, MI. It’s the highest populated Muslim community in the United States (as we are both Muslim). So there definitely is more anxiety with my worry than scientific facts. I tend to conflate feelings of anxiety/shame/guilt with symptoms as an idea of punishment for my actions. This anxiety has stopped me from being in relationships because I would have panic attacks because I would convince myself I’d be infecting others thus stopping myself from getting into any relationships for the past 9-10 years. Thankfully, your post alleviated my anxiety. Honestly after I wrote the post I thought it sounded silly and repetitive to what you’ve answered before and I’m so sorry!
I wrote this post because I’ve finally met an amazing man and he will be
the first person I have sexual intercourse with! I was very nervous I
wanted to ensure I wasn’t exposing him to anything (I’ve open and honest
with him about my worry but he told me it’s just my anxiety). He’s been
tested recently and he’s fine. So now I think I can take the plunge and
talk to my OB/GYN about getting on birth control and begin having
normal intercourse.
Just for future reference, oral sex is safe sex with regard to HIV and almost zero risk for some STDs and low risk for others (gonnerhea being the highest risk), correct?
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
78 months ago
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Thanks so much for describing your situation and circumstance. I am glad that my comments were helpful to you. As you move forward with your new relationship please be confident that you are not carrying STIs into it. On the other hand and with all due respect to your new partner you do not know his history. Thus I suggest that you go both go for testing, this is not an indication of mistrust, but a great way to initiate a trusting and respectful relationship is for both of you. And the best way to achieve this is for you to go together for your testing. In your situation, I think the results will be reassuring and will provide a strong foundation for the evolution of your relationship.
EWH
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78 months ago
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Dr,
I have one last question. You said “HSV-2 is almost never acquired as a result of performing oral sex because for reasons that are not totally clear, the virus does not "like" to cause infection in that site”. Is HIV acquired as a result of performing oral sex just as rare as HSV-2 or less rare? Or are they both equally rare to acquire as a result of receptive fellatio?
Thanks
I have one last question. You said “HSV-2 is almost never acquired as a result of performing oral sex because for reasons that are not totally clear, the virus does not "like" to cause infection in that site”. Is HIV acquired as a result of performing oral sex just as rare as HSV-2 or less rare? Or are they both equally rare to acquire as a result of receptive fellatio?
Thanks
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
78 months ago
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There are not firm numerical estimates on risk of HSV-2 acquisition because it is so rare. Because HIV is better studied, there are estimates of risk for HIV acquisition from performing oral sex on an infected partner. That risk is 1 infection on average for every 12,000 acts of oral sex. Both are VERY rare events and in your circumstance should not be a concern.
Hope this helps. As this is my 3rd response, as per Forum guidelines, this thread will be closed later today. EWH
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