[Question #5028] HIV - ART/PreP fears and questions
78 months ago
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Hello, I am
30 years old, gay, in an exclusive relationship for a year. My BF is 35, has
been diagnosed HIV+ 2-3 years ago. He had an uncommonly low viral load when he
got tested positive and started right away ART (Tivicay + Descovy). He’s become
undetectable 3 months after starting ART and his doctor, which is an expert in
HIV in our country, checks over him every 6 months now. We've been well informed about
U=U, but as I am hypochondriac and condom isn’t pleasant on the long run, I chose
to take PreP (Truvada) on a daily basis. We both always had an excellent
adherence to our meds, like over 95% for sure. We are very aware we can't mess up
with that.
Now, I am
stressed out because of 2 symptoms I got lately : almost 4 weeks ago, I had a
rash on my skin, it was like a pink orange peel and was itchy, it last 3-4
hours and vanished after taking a Benadryl. Maybe a food allergy ? A week
later, I had a lymph node that got swollen under my ear (it's still there, but
a little smaller). I had my 3-months PreP check-up this morning and should get
the results by tomorrow. Meanwhile, I had the following questions :
1. Since I
am on PreP, what are the differences with time window and accuracy of 4th
gen tests ?
2. Should I
fear blips and viral rebounds ? I read Tivicay was less likely to let HIV develop
some kind of resistance. My boyfriend never forgets to take his pills everyday
at the same time, so what are the odds that after 2-3 years he experiences a
rebound ?
3. I read a
lot about PreP and it's sometimes confusing. I read PreP was reducing by 92%
the odds of getting HIV, but only a handful of seroconversion cases have been reported,
so why experts can't say it's +99% effective ? Is 92% a really conservative number
to prevent any data gap ? And is PreP a good backup plan in case of any blips or viral
rebound on my bf's end ?
Thanks !
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
78 months ago
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1. Since I am on PreP, what are the differences with time window and accuracy of 4th gen tests ?
There are no large scientific studies to inform my answer to this because treatment failures are so rare both for persons with HIV who are undetectable and for persons on PrEP. Because the few well described, documented failures were detected as part of studies, they were detected using PCR type tests. At the same time, should you become infected (very unlikely as I noted above) infection should also be detectable using currently available 4th generation tests.
2. Should I
fear blips and viral rebounds ? I read Tivicay was less likely to let HIV develop
some kind of resistance. My boyfriend never forgets to take his pills everyday
at the same time, so what are the odds that after 2-3 years he experiences a
rebound ?
His chances of treatment failure are miniscule.
3. I read a
lot about PreP and it's sometimes confusing. I read PreP was reducing by 92%
the odds of getting HIV, but only a handful of seroconversion cases have been reported,
so why experts can't say it's +99% effective ? Is 92% a really conservative number
to prevent any data gap ? And is PreP a good backup plan in case of any blips or viral
rebound on my bf's end ?
Great question. In studies of PrEP while efforts are made to monitor medication adherence, it is likely that some study participants, particularly those who failed were less adherent to their medications than they reported. furthermore, statistical methods for analyses, for complex theoretical reasons are estimates and there may be some conservativism in how results are reported. The 92% figure is a conservative figure and most experts will tell you that for completely adherent persons, the effectiveness of PrEP is substantially higher than 92%. I think that your dual approach of you taking PrEP and him staying in care with his doctors and being adherent to therapy is a sound one.
I hope these comments are helpful. If there are further questions or part of what I have said is unclear, we provide up to two follow-up responses to clients. EWH
78 months ago
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Hello Dr. and thanks for taking the time to reassure
me with your knowledge on this very complex topic. I indeed received the
results this morning and I am still HIV-, which is obviously very relieving. I
still don’t know why I’ve been having this lymph node quite inflamed under the
ear for 3 weeks now, but I’ll let my family care Doctor take the lead over this
to get sure nothing’s wrong with something else.
That being said, I won’t do like much people seems
to do here and re-ask the same questions in loop to find some unnecessary comfort.
I learnt over time that asking a doctor to ease an exaggerated anxiety issue with
diseases is always very temporary. I must focus on a real long-term solution based on changing my own mindset. If you don’t mind, I would only like to use
this topic to give you some space (a quick word) on how people can deal with hypochondriac
issues, since it seems to be an overwhelming and common problem on this forum,
but also in the real life, especially when it comes to STIs.
I am myself trying to stop googling my symptoms,
because people often land on incurable or dangerous diseases like cancers or HIV
and keep sticking on the very worst of what they read. And they become mentally
fragile, which is a kind of a real and unpleasant disease that brings suffering. And this is a huge struggle/challenge for doctors. Cherry-picking symptoms is really insane, but still hard to manage for a lot of
people. I am personally in the procedure of finding a therapist that could help
me dealing with my anxiety with HIV and other diseases. I have been told to
look at a CBT (Cognitive behavioral therapy) by my Doctor, which seems great despite
the cost. Meanwhile, if you have any other suggestions or less costly ways to
work on that issue, especially for people here that aren’t lucky as me ( I have
great insurances, living in Canada with a great job/salary), I think this would
be warmly welcomed by the community here.
Finally, I really appreciate you took the time
to respond my questions with respect and the fact that you weighted every words is meaningful to me. Good
luck for the next and thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge.
* Sorry for my English, I am a French speaker and learnt English over the
last few years.
-A
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
78 months ago
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