[Question #5508] Performed oral on a guy. Overthinking?

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74 months ago

Doctors, last year your advice helped me to go through my particular sexual situation, I follow your test recommendations, my test was negative and started my vaccine series shots for Hep B.

After that episode I did not get physical with another man (I´m a 35 woman) until May 2019. I want to believe that in this particular episode my practices were safe: French kissing, I masturbated him with my hands and my breast and gave him oral sex, he wore a condom all the time. However, he went a little rough at the end and now I´m afraid I could have damaged a few the condom with my teeth and possible be in contact with his fluids, however I didn’t recall have tasted anything.

Is there a risk for HIV if I was in contact with his fluids (pre-cum and semen) in my mouth?

Can you explain the risk  when you are the one who perform the oral?

What about the risk of other diseases, Hep B (my third shot is in October), Siphilys, Gonhorrea, Chlamydia?

Do you recommend taking a test for this episode or I’m overthinking? It has been two weeks since the episode.

Thanks for your comments


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74 months ago
I just want to add, that there was not vaginal or anal sex in this episode.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
Welcome to the Forum.  thanks for your confidence in our work.  I'll be glad to help and, hopefully can provide you with information which will comfort you.  Performance of oral sex on a man (fellatio) is.a relatively low risk sexual exposure and when a condom is used, it becomes no risk.  From the sounds of things, your condom worked well.  If the condom had broken , it would have broken wide open .  Condoms do not "leak" or fail just a little.  When they break/fail, they break wide open and there is no doubt that they have failed.

If you had performed unprotected sex on him, or if the condom had broken, the exposure is still very, very low risk. If he had HIV, which is statistically unlikely, your risk for infection from performing unprotected fellatio would be less than 1 infection per more than 10,000 sex acts (i.e. less than 1/100th of 1%).  Other STIs are also uncommon.  Gonorrhea can rarely be acquired through performance of fellatio.  Syphilis, chlamydia, and others STIs are likewise almost unheard of.  You are ot at risk for hepatitis B because you receive the vaccine and hepatitis C is not transmitted through oral sex.

I hope that this information is helpful to you.  EWH
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74 months ago

Dr. Hook,

I’m sorry to be a little paranoid about the event it is just that the “very low risk” is still a powerful phrase who dissipate my fears and I’m pretty sure the fears of other users in the forum.

About Hep B, there was an unusual situation, I took my shots in the correct intervals, however in the last shot performed in May 2019, I realized that the second shot was not an adult dose, it was a junior dose.  So now the recommendation is to invalid the junior dose, take the May shot as second and take the third dose in another 6 months. This situation bothers me and I might not be complete protected.  Besides, the sexual episode took place the day I went to take my supposed third shot.

Perhaps my biggest concern about this event is Hepatitis B and HIV.

So in your medical opinion will you recommend testing specifically for these two?

Finally, I know that is pretty dump to ask for this naïve concerns but I just want to take advantage of my replies. Can you reafirm those as safe practices?

-Self Masturbation (fingering myself and using sex toys (exclusively used for me)

-Hand- genital / Breast- Genital contact with fluids involve.

-Someone sucking and pressing my nipples very vigorously, with plenty of saliva involve.

Thanks again appreciate your patience and comments. 

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
thanks for the additional information.  I have never seen and am unaware of any cases in which hepatitis B has been acquired from performing oral sex on an infected partner.  I urge you not to worry about hepatitis B.  As for HIV, IF your partner had HIV (unlikely), the risk of acquiring HIV from performing oral sex on him would be less than 1 infection per 10,000 sex acts (i.e. like performing oral sex on an infected person once daily for more than 27 years!),   A condom would reduce the risk for infection about another 99%.  thus, to be honest, I see no realistic reason to be concerned about either HIV or hepatitis B.

As for your additional question:

-Self Masturbation (fingering myself and using sex toys (exclusively used for me)  SAFE SEX

-Hand- genital / Breast- Genital contact with fluids involve. SAFE SEX

-Someone sucking and pressing my nipples very vigorously, with plenty of saliva involve  SAFE SEX


Nporeason for concern and no reason for testing related to any of these sorts of activities.  I hope that this information is helpful.  EWH


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74 months ago

Doctor

Just for future references, and using my last reply I have a couple more general inquires.

I’m not really a very sexual active person, I started my sex life at the beginning of my 30’s, and this was my second time with a man sharing this grade of intimacy.

In my first experience I committed imprudence and when the relationship was over I realized my lack of sexual education (yes, in my 30’s!!) and I got panic and as a result I was over tested (several HIV Test, VDRL, Hep B, C and A, Vaginal Swabs, Herpes, Pap Smear, even a blood test for Gonorrhea, which perhaps was pretty useless). Unfortunately, where I live there are not specific sexual clinics and medical advice has a conservative approach to test for every episode. I spent a lot of time and money. I don’t want to repeat that again.


So a person in my situation, taking tests once a year considering not a specific high risk will be appropriated?


And just to finish some considerations before taking an HIV test. 

Could the result can be affected by:

-Being in my period at the time of the test.

- Using Hormonal contraceptives (pills, implants, patch and hormonal shots) at the time of the test.

- Having taken a vaccine previous to the test.

-Being medicated with sertraline and clonazepam at the time of the test.

- Fasting / Not fasting before taking a test.


My next visit to the Gynecologist is in November I would like to take that time to have a complete check up. I will bring to my doctor the possibility to get an HPV vaccine, my last pap did not show anything abnormal. In your opinion with my sexual history and my age (35). Could I still be a candidate? Seems that 26 years old is the limit.


Promise this will be my last post and I hope my last time asking in the forum. Your information has been very useful for me and hope for other users.

Thanks again for taking the time to read and comment about my particular situation and questions. I applaud the labor that you and your colleagues do on this platform, providing reliable information for those confused like me.  Wish you the best.

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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
 Thank you. I'll go  straight to your follow-up questions. 

1.   Yes, unless you are in specific high-risk situations testing once a year will certainly be adequate. 
2.   None of the factors you have mentioned would affect the accuracy of tests for STIs, including HIV.   Some healthcare providers prefer not to examine patients at the time they are menstruating but test results are accurate at that time.   Contraceptives of any sort, fasting or not, or taking medications such as sertraline or having recently received a vaccine will not affect your test results. 
3.   Yes, I would recommend the HPV vaccine for you.  Here in the United States the upper age limit for receipt of the HPV vaccine has been increased from age 26 to age 45. Given both your age and your limited number of sexual partners to date I would encourage you to get the HPV vaccine. 

 As you indicate, because this is my third response to your questions and, as per forum guidelines, this thread will be closed shortly without further responses. Thank you for your confidence in our service. I wish you well. EWH 
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