[Question #5538] MSM genital apposition
74 months ago
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Thank you for all you have done and continue to do for me and all your readers. I want to beg you to forgive me for whatever I did last time to receive only an answer and no follow ups. I never mean to be a problem or whatever, and I apologize again for whatever I did "wrong". You both provide an invaluable service, and your expertise and help mean more than I can ever express, so I'm begging you to give me one more chance. I've searched your site endlessly regarding this issue, but I've found nothing that is quite the same. I'll make this short and to the point. During an initially fully clothed mut. mast. session with another male, I eventually wound up naked. He remained fully clothed. We were standing up, not that that probably matters, and he pressed his penis into my butt cheeks. I grabbed it and pushed it farther into my cheeks, and pressed it as far as it would go as he continued humping. I'm sure it pressed against the anal opening. Again, he remained clothed. What's causing the panic tonight is the thought that he more than likely had pre-cum and it was perhaps coming through his clothes. In the course of my grabbing and rubbing his penis, I'm scared to death that I pushed the pre into my anus and have become infected with HIV. I hope that that is not even close to being a possibility, but I can't sleep now worrying that it is. I honestly wasn't worried about this initially, but now the worry is there and won't let go. I know it's too late for PEP, and too early to test, but would you be so kind and merciful as to give me your opinion and help on this matter? I'm begging you again to help, and I'm thanking you in advance in case you decide to do so. Is there any worry for anything based on what I have done? Thanks so much!
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
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How disappointing to see you returning to our forum with a nuanced, repetitive question. The reason your prior questions were closed was because you keep asking very similar questions and expecting different results. This is yet another example of that process.
As you have been told repeatedly, mutual masturbation including all contact without penetration is a no risk event. No penetration occurred during the encounter you describe-it was no risk. STIs, including HIV are not transmitted through clothing, no matter how wet they are with genital secretions. There is no reason for concern, no reason for testing.
A word of warning. Should you return to the forum basically repeating the same questions, the thread will be closed immediately without further responses. In fact I would go so far as to say there should be no need for further follow-up questions at all. This was a no risk event. EWH
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74 months ago
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Thanks so much for the quick, albeit somewhat harsh reply. As always, I honestly do not think this is repetitive. I know the mut mast is no risk, but I was asking if there was any risk from the precum which had to come into contact with my anus. I can’t be certain that there wasn’t some slight penetration as I was pushing, so that’s where the worry comes from. I’m afraid to even ask, but you’re saying that even if that happened, no risk? I’m sorry again for asking and sorry that I keep getting treated, what I think is unfairly. I’ve read many more questions that were much more repetitive than any of mine, and for some reason, these folks were treated with much more respect and concern. I do thank you for all you do. It’s a selfless service you provide; I just wish I didn’t get closed out when I try to ask what I think is a reasonable question.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
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You are kidding yourself if you think your question is not repetitive. It is typical of mutual masturbation for participants to get each other's genital secretions on one another. "Contact" with the genitals or anus is to be expected and, once again, is no risk. If there was no penetration (and if penetration had occurred you would have known that) there was no risk. "Slight penetration" is an anxiety- driven misperception. No penetration no risk. What could be simpler. EWH---
74 months ago
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Thanks again. I won’t repeat myself that I don’t think my question is repetitive. Obviously, I’ve done or said something to offend or upset you, hence, the “mean” replies. I’m not concerned about the mut mast...I also know I would know if full penetration had occurred. I just want to know if In the course of what we were doing, if I pushed his penis into my anus to any degree, with his being clothed and my being naked, is this still no risk, even with Precum on his clothes? just want to make certain I’m getting my concern across. Even though I’m persona non grata here, apparently, I still appreciate your taking the time to help me get through a nightmare of a day and night. Forgive my stupidity on the matter...I wouldn’t ask if I honestly knew, as is always the case.
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Edward W. Hook M.D.
74 months ago
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Further repetition. HIV and STI's are not spread through Contact with clothing on which general secretions are present. As I've already told you this was a no risk of it. That means there is no reason for concern, no reason for testing, and no reason for further questions. This is the end of this thread. Should you return with yet another repetitive question regarding a no risk event, your question will likely be deleted without further responses or refund of your posting fee. EWH ---