[Question #562] Masturbation with vaginal fluids on penis
105 months ago
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Dear doctors,
I know that this question has already been asked and answered numerous times in different forums, but I think I can benefit from some of your elucidations on the subject. Furthermore, there always seem to be some 'nuances' to be added to this question.
I know that this question has already been asked and answered numerous times in different forums, but I think I can benefit from some of your elucidations on the subject. Furthermore, there always seem to be some 'nuances' to be added to this question.
I'm a 35 y.o. heterosexual male, concerned after an incident of mutual masturbation with a female escort. Basically, after rubbing her own vagina for a few minutes, she made herself cum and there was plenty of secretion dripping from her vagina in that moment. Right after that (and I mean a few seconds after), she continued giving me a handjob till she made me ejaculate shortly after. There is no question her hand had plenty of vaginal fluid that came into contact with my penis in a matter of a few seconds.
I regret not asking her to wipe her hands with some hand sanitized, but it was the heat of the moment I guess. Does this incident pose any significant risk for STIs (HIV, chlamydia, Trich, etc.)? What's the best/worst scenario? I'm concerned.
I don't know whether it makes any difference adding that she was using some lubricant while rubbing her vagina and that plenty of lubricant had already been applied on my penis before she started masturbating herself. I'm trying to be as precise as possible in my description.
Thank you in advance for your feedback on this.
Thank you!
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
105 months ago
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Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.
Responding initially to the title of your question, before reading anthing else: STDs are rarely if ever transmitted by hand-genital contact, even when genital fluids are used for lubrication. STDs are not simply infections that happen to involve the genitals. The bacteria and viruses that cause them evolved to require large doses for transmission, and/or to require access to certain cells, both of which dictate sexual transmission. In fact, they are STDs precisely because they organisms, and the human immune responses to them, evolved together to require this -- which is why they are STDs in the first place. It is rare if ever that sufficient virus can be carried over or be transmitted without more direct sexual contact than hand-genital exposure. So unless there is something surprising in the details of your question, I am confident you are not at risk.
Now I have read the question itself. Guess what? First, thanks for reading other discussions ahead of time. Most likely you predicted the information above, and the details don't change my opinion or advice. Second, congratulations on having entirely safe sex. Third, I would add that most escorts -- i.e. expensive female sex workers by appointment -- tend to have low STD rates. After all, their customers are typically low risk -- i.e. men like you -- and most are aware of STD risks and their prevention and also get tested regularly. So the odds probably were low your partner had a transmissible STD.
As for "penty of vaginal fluid that came into contact with [your] penis", that happens all the time anyway, during condom protected sex: the skin of the upper part of the penis usually contacts vaginal fluids, usually with no STD transmission.
Whatever the biological reasons, the fact is that even busy STD clinics virtually never see patients whose only exposures were fingering, hand-genital contact, massage, etc. Without direct penile-vaginal, -anal, or -oral insertion, the risk is low enough to be ignored. And for sure the risk is nil for the easily tested and treated STDs transmitted through fluids (and not skin to skin), like chlamydia, gonorrhea, and HIV. I recommend against testing for them -- although of course you are free to do that if you would be further reassured by the negative results.
I hope these comments are helpful and reassuring. Best wishes and stay safe-- HHH, MD
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105 months ago
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Dear Dr. Handsfield,
Thank you for your prompt response to my question. It's an honor to receive such detailed explanations from you, as I have always admired the responses of yours found on the internet. I'm also glad that your answer on this subject will benefit other 'anxious' persons like me, who I'm sure are seeking the same satisfying explanation I received today.
Your observations on this are more than reassuring and while I may find some room for a few "what ifs" in this follow up, I don't think they are so relevant. I don't think they would succeed changing your opinions either :)
Well, maybe, let me make sure that if a similar exposure should happen again in the future I don't feel like playing the Russian roulette. What I mean is that if this kind of incident should happen again in the future (with different women), I can be certain that any vaginal fluid (regardless of the amount) coming into contact with the penis during masturbation is "not" a vehicle for STDs/STIs. Maybe one tiny question I will add here, without wanting to elaborate too much: is it really so crucial that the vaginal secretions have to enter the penile urethra for an infection to take place, or it is just more important to bear in mind that vaginal fluids cannot infect via hands?
Thanks so much again!!
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
105 months ago
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Some STDs are transmitted primarily through genital fluids, such as chlamydia, gonorrhea, HIV, and hepatitis B. For those, secretions would have to get into the urethra. Others are transmitted primarily by skin-to-skin contact, and probably more transmissible by exposures like yours. But both are low risk. However, However, "cannot" is an absolute term, and if you're asking for a guarantee that such exposure could never result in transmission, I can't give it -- for either type of infection. Nobody can prove that such exposures will never result in STD transmission, only that it is very unlikely. If you want 100% protection, you will have to forego such sexual choices.
105 months ago
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Thanks again. I understand it's impossible to get a full guarantee that such exposure are 100% risk free. But one simple question comes to mind, though. What's the likelihood in an exposure like mine that some vaginal fluids did actually enter the urethra of my penis? Well, the other question then would be how much of them is required for an STD to occur?
H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
105 months ago
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There are no objective data to allow a precise answer. I'll just say that I've never seen nor hear of a case of a urethral STD (gonorrhea, chlamydia, NGU) acquired by such an exposure. So it's fair to conclude it's vanishingly rare.
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That completes the 2 follow up questions and replies that come with each new question, and so ends this thread. The bottom line is that you didn't have sex, in the conventional sense, so there was little or no risk of STD. All the other details really are superfluous.
Take care and best wishes. Stay safe.