Dear doc  I will answer my question myself so it may be a little long . 

I took hot tub massage with no condom with an escort  

NO SEX OR anything else 

 the escort was between my legs . We were filled with hot water in bath tub and she lifted my body up . I was lying down straight  my penis was lifted at a good height. And I my body floating and her vagina was far away from my penis safe distance 

My risk concern below : 

Only concern for a few seconds was at one point she came forward and used her body and  rubbed her boobs  on my chest and I had zero visibility and I got worried IF MY PENIS touched or penetrated her vagina 

I am  almost 100 percent sure remembering the scenario that I don’t think my penis penetrated her vagina .but I need your confidence to tell me move on immediately 

Answer :

Self assessment: why my penis did not penetrate her vagina even if I did not have visibility 

1) my penis was not erected at all , I had ejaculated on her breast. Before . Therefore my penis was soft and could not possibly have penetrated her vagina 

Only could have touched vagina

2) I immediately put my hands on my penis after the first few seconds when she came forward to give me a body massage in the hot tub . And I didn’t feel any vagina when She was using her body to give masaage

I actually don’t know how a vagina feels like as well  

3) she was between my legs . So she could not have open her legs wide open so another reason I don’t think my penis went into her vagina  maybe could have touched vagina 

4) I think I only felt her lower belly all this time . and also my non erected penis was pointing  towards my face and not downwards towards the escort . 

5) she used fast strokes to rub her boobs on my body . And was moving to fast another reason why my non erected penis could have not penetrated her vagina 

6) I don’t know how a vagina feels like . But certainly I think there was no deep penetration. 

7) worst case scenerio her  vagina could have touched the tip of my penis  that also would be no risk for hiv correct ? 

Additinal notes if needed to be read : 

I was very confident during the massage and I think this is anxiety now I think I am looking forward for you to tell me this was no risk event for hiv . 

I will not make a mistake by going to escort from now on .it was foolish of me 

Please note :only a little doubt because of poor visibility I could not see where my penis was but out FEEL certainly you cannot call this sex 

Also I felt 100 percent confident after the massage and this seems to be an after thought and now regret or worry came in . 

I had one sexual exposure 5 years ago which led me to excessive hiv testing . So now I don’t want to go back and put myself in anxiety 

 

Welcome to our Forum and thanks for your question, as well as your thoughtful analysis of the situation.  It is my pleasure to agree with your assessment- the events you describe were no risk events for HIV and, for that matter, for other STIs as well as for other STIs.  A flaccid, non-erect penis cannot penetrate a partner's vagina and therefore, cannot place you at risk for HIV, or for that matter, other STIs..  Further, when you combine this with all of the other facts you mention, there is simply no reason for concern and certainly no reason for testing.  

I realize that sometimes persons will tend to re-think encounters like this and wonder if they have missed things.  There is no reason to do this. In fact, your first memory of events is the most reliable.  You can put any concerns you might have behind you and move forward without concern.  I hope that the assurance I provide will help you to do this.  EWH

Just one point . Non erected penis cannot penetrate vagina thus no risk for hiv best reply you gave 

A) just wanted to clarify even if her vagina rubbed against the tip of penis . For a brief moment  again no risk for hiv  here again. Correct ? I read on dr Hunter reply searching this forum . And yours it I think stated no risk hiv or well other STIs just ignore it correct ? 

That’s all I wanted to reassure again . And well that’s about it . Any Bonus assurance you can add is highly appreciated and that would be enough . Less I  talk  about it the better and i will just re read your thread if I worry 

Thank you after this I will be on my way . Thank you doctor 

I realise  danger of over analysing things . But you answered both rubbing penis against and non erected penis cannot penetrate vagina . So I am safe both ways 

I am very happy now . 

Thank you for not misguiding me and getting me back on track .

You may close the thread . I will never forget this you have helped more like a father today . 

I will go and enjoy my vacation with my  friends  thank to you and bless you sir . 

I will trust your reply and move on immediately