[Question #6576] HIV trasmition
67 months ago
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hello Dear Doctors,
I have met a girl who I think is HIV+, I shared and smoked a peace of cigarette which I noticed litter that it has blood from her lips on it which touched my lips and tongue. also before that I kissed her on her lips which may was bleeding at that time also.
1- can I get hiv from that shared cigarette which has blood touched my lips and tongue?
2- and also shared the cup of soft drink which I think has some bood from her lips?
3- can I get hiv from kissing lips bleeding lips with deep French kiss?
4- should I get test to clarify my situation?
please advice dr
notice: I did not feel that I had wounds in my mouth or my gum at that time
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
67 months ago
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Welcome back to the forum. Thanks for your continued confidence in our services.
The words of your opening statement -- "I have met a girl" -- usually mean a new sex partner, or perhaps anticipating sex in the future. If so, and if you have reason to believe she may have HIV, of course you should ask her directly, and share your own (presumably negative)_ HIV status as well. However, until you have sex, there is absolutely no risk of HIV from day to day personal contact, or even from sex short of intercourse. In households where one person has HIV, even after 20 years, nobody in that house ever catches HIV with regular sharing of kitchens, eating utensils, bathrooms, towels, etc, etc; or from non-sexual kissing, hugging, and other personal contact of the sort friends and family members have all the time. Likewise, the things you mention in your interactions with this new friend are no risk for HIV and other blood borne infections.
Also, people don't go around bleeding from their lips. I'd guess the red on the cigarette was lipstick, not blood. But even if it was blood, such minor blood contact carries little or no risk of HIV.
To your specific questions:
1,2) No risk from shared cigarettes or drinking glasses, even if the red marks were blood.
3) In theory, open mouth (sexual) kissing with blood exposure could risk HIV. However, this is exceedingly rare. There are very few cases of HIV attributed to kissing. Among the billions of french kisses that have happened among HIV infected and non-infected persons, including those with blood exposure, almost no cases. This is nothing to worry about.
4) You do not need be tested for HIV on account of these events. However, if you remain close to this person, and especially if you imagine a possible sexual relationship, just ask her! If she hasn't been tested for HIV recently, perhaps she will do that -- especially if you offer to go with her for testing together.
Going forward, just remember this: You will never be at risk for HIV unless you a) have unprotected vaginal or anal sex or b) share drug injection equipment with a potentially infected partner. Without such exposures, you'll never get HIV. Don't worry about any other kinds of contact with other people.
I hope these comments are helpful. Let me know if anything isn't clear.
HHH, MD
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67 months ago
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thank you dr for your answers.
unfortunately she is not my girl friend so i can ask her about her status or asking her to go with me to test for HIV. I met her in a friends gathering and happened what I described earlier.
I will not have a relation with her because I estimate that she is HIV+ and I don't want to have any risk
about cigarette which has blood on it, it was little real blood because she asked me a pass a tissue for her to clean the blood she felt on her lipes. to ensue about it i asked her from where that blood she said "I peeled the dry skin off my lips". there fore i got worried of the things i shared within that time before the notice she was bleeding.
1- I'm i at risk even for 1%? should i test? I'm fried that got it and may i transmitted to my wife while having unprotected sex
67 months ago
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2- what the percentage of risk if the cigarette that I shared has real blood for HIV+ which touched my lips and tongue? and at same time I did not have any wounds in my mouth or my gum at that time
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
67 months ago
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As I already said, even if it was blood and even if she had HIV, you were not at risk. Even swallowing a few ounces of blood would have little risk. Oral exposure is always low risk. For example, when oral sex is perfomred on an HIV infected male, with swallowing ejaculation, risk is one chance in 10,000. That's equivalent to performing BJs on infected men once daily for 27 years before infection might be likely.
Repeating my comment above: "You will never be at risk for HIV unless you a) have unprotected vaginal or anal sex or b) share drug injection equipment with a potentially infected partner. Without such exposures, you'll never get HIV. Don't worry about any other kinds of contact with other people."
---You are at truly zero risk from this event. Do your best to believe it, suck it up, and move on without worry.
67 months ago
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Thank you so much Dr. All clear now and I am happy that I have no risk from the event I described.
I have two last question to close this case and help me to move on.
1- Should I get test for HIV?
2- Can I have unprotected sex with my wife with no worries of transmitting HIV?
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H. Hunter Handsfield, MD
67 months ago
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You answered your own questions. Since you understand (and are happy!) "that I have no risk", obviously you don't need testing and can safely have sex with your wife.
That completes the two follow-up exchanges included with each question and so ends this thread. I hope the discussion has been helpful.
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